Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Several optometrists having dinner with a blind man, who ordered steak but swears it's rabbit?

Amen my brother, amen!

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yes Bowas, the words of Jesus are ridiculous....Oh boy.

I merely state that theses words are not lies, but just like our Lord says they are, and you call His words ridiculous.

No sir! The words of Jesus are not lies, but ones insistent interpretation of His words can be.

Sean. Please don't even try to do the manipulation of my posts as I've seen you do to others. You know good and well I do not, nor have I, or ever will "call His words ridiculous."

I do wish you would get back to your more serious self and "snap out of it."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Bowas

No sir! The words of Jesus are not lies, but ones insistent interpretation of His words can be.

Sean. Please don't even try to do the manipulation of my posts as I've seen you do to others. You know good and well I do not, nor have I, or ever will "call His words ridiculous."

I do wish you would get back to your more serious self and "snap out of it."

Sean snap out of it?

Maybe if we change the subject or start to agree with him on something.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Hey Reader, how is that putting Sean on ignore working out?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, you make things up as you go along. We will see the rivers of living water after we die??????

You can actually say the Holy Ghost is real rivers of water and we shall see real water after we die and go to heaven, and it';s how God sees it? And when I say the tree of life is how God sees us, you say it is mocking the bible. You did the sane thing with the Holy Ghost EXACTLY THE SAME THING -- that we do with the tree of life.

Sean, sit down and learn something.

Psalms 1:1-3 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. (3) And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Believers have leaves and fruit. David said so! Did David not say say or did he? What is the fruit the believers bring forth? God's word says FRUIT. There is a RIVER. You even can at least see the river as the Holy Ghost. THAT IS EXACTLY what we say about Psalm 1 and Revelation 22! The river of life in rev 22 is the HOLY GHOST!!!

You agreed! WOOHOO!

Psalm says the same thing Rev 22 says. RIVER, FRUIT , TREES, LEAVES. Are you calling David a liar? Are you saying what we see in Psalm 1 cannot apply to Revelation 22? They';re talking about the SAME THING, only Psalm 1 interprets it for us as BELIEVERS!

And who is eating the fruit???? Fruit of the Spirit is love and joy and peace, etc. Who eats that Sean? God called it FRUIT.

The CITY comes down out of heaven and goes to earth, not hell. Hell is not the only thing outside of Heaven. And it heals the NATIONS OF EARTH. Jerusalem above is our MOTHER. How is the city a mother in Rev 22, Sean?

And it is the CHURCH FROM HEAVEN that comes to the earth and heals and provides fruit TO THOSE NOT SAVED.

Sean, explain why Psalm 1 says BELIEVERS are trees with fruit and leaves. Why do you mock what I say about Rev 22 and not apply to Psalm 1? What is the difference between Psalm 1 and Rev 22?

Watch a whole lot more refusal to answer questions, and instead a bunch of lying crock about how I do not believe Revelation 22 now.

Watch Sean say NOT ONE THING of why Psalm 1 says trees by the river and leaves and fruit are speaking of believers...

Mike, you are very confused here.

You think that the attributes of the Spiritual things we are likened to, are the replacement of the Spiritual things.

You are trying to use O.T. "types" to change the meanings of the realities of the Book of Revelation.

Remember what happens to the guy that tampers with the meanings of the book?....
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

[mfblume]

Enjoying a merry go round, readers?

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, you make things up as you go along. We will see the rivers of living water after we die??????

You can actually say the Holy Ghost is real rivers of water and we shall see real water after we die and go to heaven, and it's how God sees it? And when I say the tree of life is how God sees us, you say it is mocking the bible. You did the same thing with the Holy Ghost EXACTLY THE SAME THING -- that we do with the tree of life.

Sean, sit down and learn something.

Psalms 1:1-3 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. (3) And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Believers have leaves and fruit. David said so! Did David not say say or did he? What is the fruit the believers bring forth? God's word says FRUIT. There is a RIVER. You even can at least see the river as the Holy Ghost. THAT IS EXACTLY what we say about Psalm 1 and Revelation 22! The river of life in rev 22 is the HOLY GHOST!!!

You agreed! WOOHOO!

Psalm says the same thing Rev 22 says. RIVER, FRUIT , TREES, LEAVES. Are you calling David a liar? Are you saying what we see in Psalm 1 cannot apply to Revelation 22? They';re talking about the SAME THING, only Psalm 1 interprets it for us as BELIEVERS!

And who is eating the fruit???? Fruit of the Spirit is love and joy and peace, etc. Who eats that Sean? God called it FRUIT.

The CITY comes down out of heaven and goes to earth, not hell. Hell is not the only thing outside of Heaven. And it heals the NATIONS OF EARTH. Jerusalem above is our MOTHER. How is the city a mother in Rev 22, Sean?

And it is the CHURCH FROM HEAVEN that comes to the earth and heals and provides fruit TO THOSE NOT SAVED.

Sean, explain why Psalm 1 says BELIEVERS are trees with fruit and leaves. Why do you mock what I say about Rev 22 and not apply to Psalm 1? What is the difference between Psalm 1 and Rev 22?

Watch a whole lot more refusal to answer questions, and instead a bunch of lying crock about how I do not believe Revelation 22 now.

Watch Sean say NOT ONE THING of why Psalm 1 says trees by the river and leaves and fruit are speaking of believers...

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Like I said, I posted you a question if you believed the rivers out of the stomach were physical, and you posted back in the affirmative, yet recanted your affirmation by NOW saying it's SPIRITUAL?

Sean you haven't a clue what your talking about or what you even believe.

Back to your kennel....

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

Mike, you are very confused here.

You think that the attributes of the Spiritual things we are likened to, are the replacement of the Spiritual things.

You are trying to use O.T. "types" to change the meanings of the realities of the Book of Revelation.

Remember what happens to the guy that tampers with the meanings of the book?....
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

How can you keep twisting what we say? You never answered me. I never said anything replaced anything else. I am saying the exact thing about Rev 22 that you said about the rivers of living water as the Spirit. Exactly. Are you replacing? I'm doing exactly what you are.

Now, answer me .... why did Psalm 1 say we are trees with leaves and fruit by a river? Psalm 1 said FRUIT AND LEAVES. Is God a liar?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Like I always say, Eschatology is the LEAST of their problems.

I am glad I agree with the prophetical verses as I read them, without completely changing the meaning of them to fit a false foundation of "all prophecy is fulfilled", like preterists do.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

How can you keep twisting what we say? You never answered me. I never said anything replaced anything else. I am saying the exact thing about Rev 22 that you said about the rivers of living water as the Spirit. Exactly. Are you replacing? I'm doing exactly what you are.

Now, answer me .... why did Psalm 1 say we are trees with leaves and fruit by a river? Psalm 1 said FRUIT AND LEAVES. Is God a liar?

Are you nullifying the physical realities of Rev. 22, with "types" in psalm 1 again?