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Old 11-08-2015, 06:24 PM
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No, a "likeness".


The word "metaphor" was not invented yet.
When did we ever say they were metaphors?
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:25 PM
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Hey, A.D.D. boy, stop fooling around outside the issue at hand, and let's deal with this. how do you know the lamb is Jesus, and why is it symbolism, when the chapter does not say it is symbolism?



I see the sign, then know what it means.

Easy peasy.

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him
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I see the sign, then know what it means.

Easy peasy.

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him
You are not answering me. HOW DO YOU KNOW it's a sign and not reality? What in the chapter says that?
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And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Sean it doesn't mean that a minister is supposed to degrade his listeners into being saved. Where do you find that in the verse you just quoted?
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You are not answering me. HOW DO YOU KNOW it's a sign and not reality? What in the chapter says that?
Sean?
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You are not answering me. HOW DO YOU KNOW it's a sign and not reality? What in the chapter says that?


I cant say, so if I take a guess, it must only make the actual words of the passage CLEARER, and not allowing the meaning to be changed at all, or I will lose my salvation.
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Sean it doesn't mean that a minister is supposed to degrade his listeners into being saved. Where do you find that in the verse you just quoted?
Jude 1:23
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I cant say, so if I take a guess, it must only make the actual words of the passage CLEARER, and not allowing the meaning to be changed at all, or I will lose my salvation.
You say it is a SIGN but cannot say WHY?? Nothing in the chapter says it's a sign. The chapter does not even say the LAMb is "JESUS". But you say that is the case.

Tell me, what is the difference between you saying the Lamb is a SIGN of Jesus, when the chapter does not say so, and me saying the tree of life with leaves and fruit is a SIGN and the chapter does not say so?

What is the difference? What gives you a right to say the LAMB is a sign but not the TREE OF LIFE?


You cannot SAY but have to GUESS? Seriously?
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I cant say
Brother Blume this is over.

Good God from Zion!

Sean call a truce, you need that one teach you again.
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