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Old 06-03-2007, 10:05 PM
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Many a powerful preacher recieved the Holy Ghost under the ministry of a woman. Better be careful what we say lest we touch God's anointed...whether it be man or woman.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:21 PM
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Many a powerful preacher recieved the Holy Ghost under the ministry of a woman. Better be careful what we say lest we touch God's anointed...whether it be man or woman.
Yes, powerful men of God, like Bishop Nathaniel Wilson, and Gordon Mallory, missionary who has seen mighty revival in the Phillippines
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:25 PM
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Bishop- No doubt you were younger and not as wise (hard to imagine) when you wrote this the first time. Othewise you would most certainly realize that Miriam is a lousy example of a woman without authority.

Find out what a Prophet later in the OT had to say about her before you write her off as a musician catering to women.

Did you find it?

Time to revamp Sermon #123!




MsNuman;

Long Tyme No Hear -

LOL

I see that you noted the date on that tract -

BUT AS FOR ' MIRIAM'

I Believe That Leprosy Took Care Of Her Problem -


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I also concede that my aged Mother held upci license as well as my Aunt Lela Holland -
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:34 PM
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quit pasting bishops words.They are a pest to read and a whole page long.
Give an old woman a break.I have grandchildren ya know.



Ms Trouvere ;

I Don't Exactly Know What They Believe

In Erath, Ensley or Warrenton

BUT

North Of I-90

WE BELIVE THE FOLLOWING ;

: amen
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Originally Posted by Bishop1
Tract / Sermon Re-Print # 123
{ Sermon preached in 1961 }

http.www.Acts238HolinessOrHell.com



WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY

ABOUT

LADY TALKERS ,

LADY SPEAKERS ,

LADY PREACHERS

AND

LADY PASTORS ?


A Fire Of Enmity Can Be Kindled by simply stating Bible Truths about
just how far our present society, {including today’s Church World},
has now fallen by allowing WOMEN to fill places of authority over their
GOD Given Head
“ The MAN “ …

Enmity is kindled when you state a known fact :
“This custom is Directly In Violation To The WORD OF GOD “

Matthew 4:4 simply states
“Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth
out of the mouth of GOD”.

We All Know That
DISOBEDIENCE To GOD’S WORD
IS SIN …..

Now

Lets Take A Simple Look
At What The BIBLE SAYS
About

“ LADY TALKERS “ -
God has a place for women in His Church ,
and if we try to do it GOD’S WAY, the Church will be richly blessed.
No Church will be complete without ‘GOD Fearing Women Who Are
NOT Afraid To Yield To The Presence Of Almighty GOD.

In the beginning Woman Was Created To Be A Helper,
Not To Rule, Or Have The Authority Over The Man..
“ And the Lord GOD said it is not good that man should be alone,
I Will Make A Helpmeet For Him “{suitable for him}
{ * Genesis 2:18 }
“ I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow
thou shall bring forth children, and thy desire shall be to thy HUSBAND,
And He Shall Rule Over Thee “
{ * Genesis 3:16 }

Apostle Paul taught that a woman was to be in SUBJECTION.

“ Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection,
But I Suffer NOT A Woman To Teach
Or Usurp Authority Over The Man,
but to learn in silence “.
{ * I Timothy 2:11 }

“ Let your women keep Silence in the Churches;
for it is NOT PERMITTED unto them to speak;
but they are Commanded To Be Under Obedience,
as under the law “
{ * I Corinthians 14:34 }

“ And If They Will Learn Anything
Let Them Ask Their Husbands At Home,
For It Is A SHAME For A Woman To “SPEAK” In The Church “ !
{ * I Corinthians 14:35 }

“ If Any Man Think Himself To Be A Prophet Or Spiritual
Let Him ACKNOLEDGE That The Things I Write Unto You
ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD “ !
{ * I Corinthians 14:37 }

A woman’s place is that of Obedience And Subjection
and instructions were clearly given in I Peter 3:17
“ For The Wives To Be In Subjection To Their Own Husbands “

“ But I would have you know that the head of every man is CHRIST,
the head of every woman is the Man, and the head of Christ is GOD “.
{ * I Corinthians 11:3 }

NOW
Let us look at some of the women recorded in the BIBLE.
Please do not fail to realize & recognize that there definitely
is a place for women in the Church as provided by GOD…
{ helper, helpmeet, worker, prayer warrior, example to the older
women, example to the younger women and to be an example to
the youth }
Not As Instructors of Men or Pastors.

We have selected six {6} examples from various parts of the Bible
to better explain our standard of Bible Truth.
We believe that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word
must be established and we will not preach nor permit anyone to be
in our pulpit if they cannot back it up by two or more scriptures.


EXAMPLE # 1 “ M I R I A M “
{ Read The 15th Chapter of Exodus }

Miriam led the women in singing, led the women out and played a tambourine –
. . . . { No Authority Over Man Is Recorded }-



EXAMPLE # 2 “ D E B O R A H “
{ Read The 4th Chapter of Judges }

DEBORAH had a close relationship with GOD. The men of
that day, { as it is in our day }, were weak in spirit, weak
in zeal, having absolutely no courage.
They also shirked their responsibility by putting the load,
{ that they were supposed to be carrying }, on the women.
They came to this GOD Fearing Woman and asked for advice.

She never usurped authority over BARAK,
but just told him what GOD had revealed unto her. Barak was so
spineless, yellow livered, weak in the knees and scared.
He would not go into battle unless she was willing to go with him.
DEBORAH told BARAK that he would lose honor if she went into
the battle with him because the enemy would be delivered into the
hands of a Woman.
…..{ No Authority Over Man Is Recorded }



EXAMPLE # 3 “ H U L D A H “
{ Read The 34th Chapter of II Chronicles }

HULDAH prophesied,
but the fact remains that
the King Led The People To The House Of GOD….
… { No Authority Over Man Is Recorded }



EXAMPLE # 4 “ A N N A “
{ Read The 2nd Chapter Of Luke }

ANNA was a righteous and GOD Fearing woman
who fasted, prayed, prophesied and gave testimony
as to the Messiahship Of JESUS …..
{ No Authority Over Man Is Recorded }



EXAMPLE # 5 “ The Daughters Of Phillip “
{ Read The 21st Chapter Of Acts }

The “ DAUGHTERS OF PHILLIP “ went to Sameria and
‘ did Prophesy thus fulfilling the Prophesy Of JOEL -
“ That In The Last Days I Will Pour Out My Spirit Upon All Flesh,
And Your Sons And Daughters Will Prophesy . . . .
{ No Authority Over Man Is Recorded }



EXAMPLE # 6 “ P H E B E “
{ Read The 16th Chapter Of Romans }

PHEBE was a Succourer of many. Just what does that word mean ?
According to Webster:
> to help, > to give aid, > to obtain relief for persons in need.
{ No Authority Over Man Is Recorded }





IN CONCLUSION

Let us review the BIBLICAL FACTS .
. .
{ A } The Head Of The Woman Is The Man –

{ B } Woman Is Not To Teach The Man –

{ C } Woman Is Not To Usurp Authority Over The Man –

If
We Believe PAUL
When He Stated The Following ;
“It Is A Shame For A Man To Have Long Hair”

Then We MUST ALSO BELIEVE HIM
When It Is Stated, More Than Twice,
For The Woman
' NOT TO SPEAK IN CHURCH ’



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Old 06-03-2007, 10:38 PM
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Bishop I disagree.The bible clearly calls Deborah a judge in Isreal.A judge has authority.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:46 PM
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Bishop I disagree.The bible clearly calls Deborah a judge in Isreal.A judge has authority.


Sis Trouvere :

Please note that I wrote that TRACT in 1961

after a controversial Sermon in Madison Wisconsin.

If

I Had Posted It On 'The Good News Cafe'

Sista Coop Would Ban Me Again !


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Old 06-03-2007, 10:50 PM
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I feel to say this again AH!!! Woman.. thou art loosed!! I set you free!!! glooooray!!!!
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:51 PM
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How old are you??? I was born in 1961.You must be like eighty years old.How old is that young chick in the pictures anyway????
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:09 AM
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Bishop I disagree.The bible clearly calls Deborah a judge in Isreal.A judge has authority.
No way. Deborah was a woman which meant she had no authority at all. Yes, she was a judge but she had no authority. I know because my preacher told me so. All she did was make peanut brittle and clean bathrooms.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:13 AM
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No way. Deborah was a woman which meant she had no authority at all. Yes, she was a judge but she had no authority. I know because my preacher told me so. All she did was make peanut brittle and clean bathrooms.
Thats funny!
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