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12-09-2015, 09:04 AM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
Awesome post Bro. Blume!
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12-09-2015, 09:05 AM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
I just read this story today about a Christian missionary who was taken captive by Muslim terrorists. A praise report indeed!
http://www.gfa.org/pray/mission-leader-kidnapped/
A short excerpt:
I talked to Pastor Ponnachan a few hours ago. He simply wept for a long time, unable to say much. He thanked God and the Body of Christ for the massive fasting and prayer that took place on his behalf.
After kidnapping him at gunpoint, the terrorists blindfolded him and tied his hands behind his back. They forced him to walk for hours deep into the forest to their hideout. Throughout Ponnachan's entire ordeal, his captors repeatedly told him they were going to shoot him and would not spare him. He could hear them discuss their next moves and plans for demanding money, but he remained calm. We may be able to share more details later about the week-long, near-death experience he went through. But right now, we thank God for answering our prayers and causing these terrorists to release him unharmed without the huge ransom they demanded. Toward the end of our conversation, I asked him what went through his mind during this horrible experience.
"These people are known for shooting and killing in cold blood for their cause," he responded. "I was frightened and really thought I would never be freed. I thought about my wife and young children and felt helpless. That is when I began to meditate on the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, and I reminded myself that my leader sent me out with a one-way ticket to this mission field. The passage in Acts 20 where Paul says 'I don't regard my life dear to myself' became a source of strength."
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12-11-2015, 07:44 AM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
I saw this meme on faceboook, and not sure if it is taking pieces of the Quran out of context, but here it is:
And you can go to http://quran.com and confirm each reference by putting the chapter and verse after that web address to see the verse in question.
For example, the first is quran 2:244:
You do this: quran.com/2/244
And this comes up: "And fight in the cause of Allah and know that Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
I noticed these references all talk about fighting people, repeatedly, ad nauseum. What is interesting in light of this thread is that the bible says this:
Eph 6:12 KJV For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
The Koran says FIGHT PEOPLE over and over and over again.
Now, if one should go to the Old Testament where God told people to fight people, let me respond by saying the New Testament teaches no such thing. All the old covenant battles with people seem to typify spiritual battles we face in the New. Many things were done in the Old Covenant that Christ said were for the hardness of hearts that are not done now. I think this is definitely one of them, to say the least! lol
So while the New covenant saw a progression to fighting no person, but only spirits and demonic powers, the Koran encourages Muslims to fight people.
Michael Brown put that picture up and he is no fool.
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Last edited by mfblume; 12-11-2015 at 08:09 AM.
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12-11-2015, 09:06 AM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
The Qur'an condemns violence in any form, on page 1. It is written from the Pentateuch, which you would have no problem justifying--being as how you identify with it--but you seek to condemn Muslims with this. "Jihad" may be translated "Holy war" or "struggle." You reap what you sow. If you seek enemies, don't be surprised when you find them. If you advocate fearing evil, as you are doing here, you are not reflecting fear of God; you are the terrorist.
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12-12-2015, 11:49 PM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
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Originally Posted by shazeep
The Qur'an condemns violence in any form, on page 1. It is written from the Pentateuch, which you would have no problem justifying--being as how you identify with it--but you seek to condemn Muslims with this. "Jihad" may be translated "Holy war" or "struggle." You reap what you sow. If you seek enemies, don't be surprised when you find them. If you advocate fearing evil, as you are doing here, you are not reflecting fear of God; you are the terrorist.
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Oh brother.
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12-13-2015, 12:02 AM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
Q'uran condemns violence while repeatedly telling adherents to fight people. That's like saying Muslims do not deny the Son of God while the Q'uran repeatedly says God has no son.
And I am a terrorist because I say we should not fight people but spirits and principalities.
Clear as mud! Gotcha!
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12-13-2015, 08:22 AM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
then by all means witness the spirits of Islam that have come against you, and i will pray God's will with you against them. And when we are done with that, we must examine any Christian spirits coming against them, so we will not be found to be mocking God.
you admitted that you didn't bother to verify whether these are taken out of context, also; so let's just pick one, and read it.
"They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks"
is right there in the middle of the first one i grabbed, the bottom one. 9-34, which is of course omitted, sums up the passage
"9:34 O ye who believe! Lo! many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the (Christian) monks devour the wealth of mankind wantonly and debar (men) from the way of Allah. They who hoard up gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom,"
so we see that this is not about fighting Jews and Christians at all--who are accepted in the Qur'an in many other places, which are not mentioned here of course--but about idolatry. And, it does sound uncomfortably familiar, i would say.
I could go through the others and find the same hypocrisies, but it would be pointless, because you are going to read what your heart tells you to read, and post what you feel led to post. No matter how many times one points out that the beginning of Sur'ahs condemns violence, you will never go read it, and would not see it if you did.
So you guys are setting up a deal where Muslims are presented as bloodthirsty enemies, intent upon eating your children; but your children are meeting Muslims now, more and more--because you have incited drone-bombing their towns and they have to go somewhere--and while some of them will also become rabid bigots, most of them are going to detect hypocrisy, and turn against you.
Now of course being rabid hypocrites, you don't care about any of this--your kids are prolly dying anyway, before you--and another witness to stand with me here will be hard to find, as most anyone with sense will not come in to this vile thread; but you are now once again warned that God will not be mocked, and if you sow the wind you will reap the whirlwind.
So now, witness to me again what sins Muslims have committed against you, personally, while i go find Ahmed and we hear his story once again, and you can pretend he is lying to you once again, so you can feel better for a minute.
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12-13-2015, 07:31 PM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
Their book says what their book says, but of the over ONE BILLION Muslims on earth at this moment, most of them do not interpret their scriptures to carry out their "mission" in the way of terrorists.
Why more people don't see this, I just don't understand!
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12-13-2015, 07:40 PM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Their book says what their book says, but of the over ONE BILLION Muslims on earth at this moment, most of them do not interpret their scriptures to carry out their "mission" in the way of terrorists.
Why more people don't see this, I just don't understand!
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12-13-2015, 07:50 PM
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Re: Does Islam Inspire Terrorism?
Wow, with memes like these who needs enemies?
After they get rid of the peaceful religion, they are going to come after the next peaceful religion.
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