Dialogue with a Muslim

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Originally Posted by shazeep

Like.... Shazeep, whose sins are covered in the passage that says charity covers a multitude of sins?

No answer.


not true, i answered this; you just didn't like the answer, because it supports Scripture that you do not acknowledge.

Stop playing. if you answered, repeat it and let's see. You stumble at the cross. Plain and simple.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Stop playing. if you answered, repeat it and let's see. You stumble at the cross. Plain and simple.

So, i suggest that God judges people differently than you, and that Muslims are not condemned by your standards, and so now i am stumbling at the cross. fine, go with that. You are a hypocrite, so what do i care what you think?

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Originally Posted by shazeep

20If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother,aj he is a liar.ak For the person who does not love his brotheral he has seen cannot love the God he has not seen.am 21And we have this command from Him: The one who loves God must also love his brother.

So? That doesn't save though. It speaks of what loses salvation. Without repentance, which includes forgiveness and casting away hate, one can't be saved. The cross saves. His.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

So? That doesn't save though. It speaks of what loses salvation. Without repentance, which includes forgiveness and casting away hate, one can't be saved. The cross saves. His.

How would someone who demonstrates that they are a hypocrite, and regularly quotes Scripture like satan does, cutting off the relevant portions, be able to tell anyone what saves?

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Originally Posted by shazeep

So, it's not being a servant to tell people the basic message of the Bible...

not when it conflicts with the other basic message of the Bible, deemed "sufficient for them," no. How are you any different from those crying "Lord, Lord?" If an outsider was asked to identify the group who cries Lord, Lord today, who might they select?

Christians are in view in the Lord crying issue. Only Christians who won't hear Christ and do. I explained that. You ask again? And then you say you answered me and refuse to answer my questions because you claim you already did. Circles galore. You did that several times to me, and I still answered.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Christians are in view in the Lord crying issue. Only Christians who won't hear Christ and do. I explained that. You ask again? And then you say you answered me and refuse to answer my questions because you claim you already did. Circles galore. You did that several times to me, and I still answered.

you should stop explaining, because everyone already understands why hypocrites justify themselves. If you should decide to ever give a straight answer, to anything, let me know, but it will require removing the circle from over your head. I'm sorry if i have embarrassed you, as i did not mean to imply that there was intrinsically anything wrong with seeking out a Muslim to explain the dogmatic differences to you; my meaning was that they are irrelevant.

[shazeep]

pardon me, but i have had enough of your pedantic avoidance for now. So i am not coming back here, and you can continue your condemnation of everyone else who is not you to your heart's content--because Jesus told you to.

[shazeep]

you guys seem to forget that their spiritual borders are increasing, while yours are diminishing; and you just can't figure out why pride and arrogance have taken over, and you can't seem to have a revival. You are not going to care much that you have imagined that you won some argument with me when your daughters are marrying Muslims.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

pardon me, but i have had enough of your pedantic avoidance for now. So i am not coming back here, and you can continue your condemnation of everyone else who is not you to your heart's content--because Jesus told you to.

I condemn no one. The word already condemned them. Avoidance? Whatever. I offered to deal with anything you ask and you suddenly refuse.

Anything to not deal with actual word.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

i'm sorry, this does not make sense to me. "If his heart never believed." oh, i think i get what you are trying to say. You have found a definition for "believed," and you think God cares what it is, while simultaneously believing that it is ok to condemn people you don't know based upon the same tortured logic. whatever. fine.

I condemned no none. They're already condemned by the word long before I said anything. You'd rather have preachers never say people need salvation. Some weird twisted love.