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05-02-2016, 10:35 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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When Paul says he was without blame---he is stating that he was considered by Pharasiacal standards without blame.
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You mean Pharisaical?
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05-02-2016, 10:38 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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When Paul says he was without blame---he is stating that he was considered by Pharasiacal standards without blame.
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Really? OK where in Philippians 3:6 does Paul say he was blameless in the standards of the sect of the Pharisees? Wow, it doesn't say that, but it says that he was faultless in the Law. Which would not only be the Torah, the prophets, the oral law, but the law of the Temple. DB, your above post should go along with your teaching that in the Sermon of the Mount Jesus was subtly teaching about Himself. 
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05-02-2016, 10:40 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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He was a law abiding citizen. He wasn't saying he perfectly fulfilled the law.
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So, in your church you teach that Jesus wept doesn't mean Jesus was crying.
Gotcha. 
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05-02-2016, 10:48 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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Only Jesus could do that.
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Tell me what the below scripture is trying to say?
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as He is pure.
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No one else EVER will---not will anyone need to. Jesus dos it for us because it is impossible to perfectly obey the law.
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1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.
Bro, whether you can't attain this, or if I couldn't attain this, it is STILL in your Bible.
The He is pure and the He is righteous are the same person. That person is Jesus Christ. Verse 7 starts out with a warning to all those who would try to teach something other than what the writer was teaching. The writer is telling the reader that you were to DO righteousness, even as Jesus Christ is righteous. Bro, tell me what does the verse mean? 
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05-02-2016, 10:50 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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Lol. I forgot. You live a perfect life. You don't like anyone correcting your mistakes because you don't make any. I'll leave you alone about your misspellings and grammatical errors.
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You mean like Pharasiacal?
DB, you are a seether.
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05-02-2016, 11:08 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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I'll answer your question when you get honest and start reading my posts without misrepresenting what I have been posting.  |
You don't have to answer my question. We know the answer whether you answer or not.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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05-02-2016, 11:14 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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A mischaracterization of what I believe.
We are to not think of ourselves more highly than we ought to think. Nothing wrong with feeling a sense of gratitude that He made me worthy in spite of who I am.
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No mischaracterization at all, those are the conclusions I have reached by reading your posts. My lands, you have some hairy eyeball comments about me, but I'm just not going wee wee wee all the way home.
DB, don't worry Jesus loves you.
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Oh, the reason why my quote didn't come out in quotations is because you can't spell when your angry. 
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Yeah, I'm less of a man. Yeah, it's gross to honestly admit how one feels.
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But bro, it's church, I love church, I don't like sappy church. I love when the Holy Ghost moves on a minister and he brings forth powerfully moving words. But not a mantra of how God shouldn't have anything to do with you because you are still messed up. Jesus loves you, and is helping you, not threatening to leave you.
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I suppose John was light in the loafers
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You know comments like this draw certain conclusions on how you think. Just don't get mad at me. I never said you were a girlie man, or that you have hands softer than the feet of a newborn baby. You bring forth your own accusations, and do it without even a blink. You are so funny. 
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when he said he fell as one dead when he caught a glimpse of Jesus in His glory.
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He fell in worship, he didn't go off and say how he didn't understand why God would bother with him. One is sappy IMO, and the other is piety.
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Or when Isaiah cried out "woe is me!" when he saw the Lord. Or when the Gadarene demoniac ran to the feet of Jesus and worshiped Him. The Lord would rather have real men who chest thump, and boast of their sinless lifestyles, and thank God they aren't like other men---men who aren't as good as they are.
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Wow, that's a mouthful, but it is drawing a conclusion from what you read in my posts. No chest thumping (you would probably snap your sternum) and no one is boasting here. That is what you are seeing, but If I see something? Oh I'm a bad guy?
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Lord Jesus infuse me with apostolic testosterone!
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Sorry but that must be done through your own free will. You would have to forgive your enemies, turn the cheek, lend and never expect it back. You are not saved by works, you are judged by your works. A bad tree cannot produce good fruit, and a good tree cannot produce bad fruit.
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You don't have to obsess over any opaque meanings to my musings. Sleep well and don't fret about me.
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I don't obsess over the meanings in your posts I just draw my conclusions and you get mad.
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I'd like to know, are you a member of a church? Do you support that church faithfully with tithes and offerings? Do you volunteer in ministry and give of your time and talents?
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You mean do works? 
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05-02-2016, 11:15 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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You don't have to answer my question. We know the answer whether you answer or not.
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DB, you never had a problem with assumptions.
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05-02-2016, 11:40 PM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
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But you never even attempted to explain how this could be possible.
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Explain to me what Paul meant when he called himself chief of sinners.
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How are we to take these statements of Paul in the light of your doctrine of Paul living actively in sin as a wretched man?
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Romans 7
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
It's a daily war of flesh vs. Spirit. You'll not find me ever stating that Paul was living actively in sin.
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I guess in your book a pastor who commits adultery should just apologize and get back into the pulpit.
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Nope. You're wrong.
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Matter fact they are pretty sick of the whole dog and pony show.
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"They"? Who are the "they"? Are they like the "they" of the "they say"? Like "they say if you wear a ball cap too much you'll go bald." This anonymous group of people that answer surveys and polls and "they" feed us statistics to cite?
If the Gospel of Grace is a dog and pony show---what is the Apostolic movement? If "they" are so sick of hearing about God's love, and grace, and mercy, and compassion---why aren't they just flocking to the chosen few who have "the truth"? The implication is that "they" are looking for what YOU have and preach EB! So how is that going? Do you take time to get off of the Internet long enough to win the "they" that are soooo sick of hearing about that super syrupy sweet grace message for "the truth" you possess???
Dog and pony show indeed...
I've seen the show. Watched the performances at church from the pulpit to the pew. Everybody playing the game of "we are the only ones going to heaven!"
congratulating one another for how super spiritual and how super special we were. Camp meetings were worse. Conferences, off the charts.
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Super sad, man what you believe in is a total sham. Foisted upon people who are either as messed up as you, or totally naive to the Word of God. Therefore they fall prey to your message.
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Yeah, we are messed up. Every one of us.
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I doubt shame has ever posed an issue. :
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You know me so well.
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Sorry bro, but real humility is pleasing to God. Not that sappy pulpit posing, where you go on and on about how you can't understand why God even deals with you. That is nauseating. :
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I know you have heard my preaching and are able to tell that!
No, Paul was living for God admonishing others to live overcoming lives. You on the other hand constantly remind people how it isn't obtainable until their in heaven.[/QUOTE]
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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05-03-2016, 02:34 AM
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Re: Rock Hudson Repented Before His Death
What a mess. To be saved in your sins and not from them.
I come across that attitude all the time amongst the reformed brethren.
"I am the scum of the earth worthy of hellfire and damnation. Now let me tell you the good news." 
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