Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?

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Some people think reading this verse to others is condemning them... oh well..

Mar 16:16 KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

[shazeep]

well, we have many other verses about believing and salvation, and i think it might depend upon why one would be reading a particular verse of Scripture to someone else; is the intent to proffer an invitation, or to condemn? Or to forward a pov? So there are more than one motivations possible for this, and if tearing down Trinnies' concept of God is the goal here, to prove them "deluded" or otherwise marginalize them, i would say that you have taken off on the wrong foot and have no hope anyway, imo, but at the very least you need some more Scripture, and i'm not even sure how that one may be used against Trinnies anyway.

Is the interpretation of this verse a sticking point between the two camps?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, we have many other verses about believing and salvation, and i think it might depend upon why one would be reading a particular verse of Scripture to someone else; is the intent to proffer an invitation, or to condemn? Or to forward a pov? So there are more than one motivations possible for this, and if tearing down Trinnies' concept of God is the goal here, to prove them "deluded" or otherwise marginalize them, i would say that you have taken off on the wrong foot and have no hope anyway, imo, but at the very least you need some more Scripture, and i'm not even sure how that one may be used against Trinnies anyway.

Is the interpretation of this verse a sticking point between the two camps?

Do you believe in the trinitarian doctrine?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Barb

Do you believe in the trinitarian doctrine?

no, but i don't believe in the oneness doctrine, either. Which i guess sounds kind of weird, but they just strike me as ways to divide people over some guesses they are making, and then defending to the death as if they were important, or even meaningful.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by shazeep

no, but i don't believe in the oneness doctrine, either. Which i guess sounds kind of weird, but they just strike me as ways to divide people over some guesses they are making, and then defending to the death as if they were important, or even meaningful.

Guesses? Interesting...

Tell me...are you Muslim?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Barb

Guesses? Interesting...

Perspectives might be a better word. But inevitably they are one-dimensional attempts to, what? Describe God? What is the fruit of holding to one of these doctrines over another? Believing in them? Do they chiefly enrich your life in some way, or do they not mostly provide a division for you to come down on one side or the other of, making an "us" and a "them?"

No, i don't identify with Islam, but why do you ask that?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Barb

Guesses? Interesting...

Tell me...are you Muslim?

He isn't a Muslim because he would of been beheaded by now. He hangs around Christians because they are peaceful. Therefore he has a better survival rate.

[shazeep]

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