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07-02-2016, 09:07 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I understand what you're saying. However, if we take these as strict legalistic requirements for eldership.... unmarried men (such as Paul) wouldn't qualify. But since Paul was indeed an elder, we know that the admonition to have one wife wasn't a "requirement". Thus it appears to be more of an admonition than a legalistic "commandment".
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Do you ever debate in public?
Because I know that in a street Bible study altercation, you would be stomped into a greasy theological puddle. What I mean is, I have met people around this city while not Christians had an amazing knowledge of the scriptures. Yet while they have this knowledge, they don't use it to benefit themselves spiritually. They use it to stealthy rope in an unsuspecting Christian into a perplexing situation. Bro, you couldn't walk away from them making the above comments. Because they see through all that, and they would wait until a crowd formed and were listening to you intently. Once you got going on your above thoughts they would swoop in for the kill. By the time they were done with you, there would be nothing left but a greasy spot.
Paul just casually making suggestions?
Because after all, Paul would of disqualified himself?
Hey, good luck with that.
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07-02-2016, 09:40 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
Why didn't Paul say "if a man is married, then..."?
Why would God inspire a list of requirements for eldership if they weren't binding?
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07-02-2016, 09:40 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
What else is merely "suggestion"?
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07-02-2016, 09:41 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
Hey, maybe that stuff about homosexuality is just "suggestion" as well?
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07-02-2016, 09:42 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
Or maybe that stuff about adultery, maybe that's not to be taken in some legalistic fashion, either...?
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07-02-2016, 10:01 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
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Why didn't Paul say "if a man is married, then..."?
Why would God inspire a list of requirements for eldership if they weren't binding?
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Oh, the answer for that is....drum roll please...
It's not inspired?
Good God from Zion!!!!
This country is circling the drain, fast, steady, with no stopping.
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07-02-2016, 10:06 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
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Hey, maybe that stuff about homosexuality is just "suggestion" as well?
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Oh, but of course, that was legalistic to place such restrictions on people.
Paul was just making some light suggestions concerning effeminacy in 1st Corinthians 6:9
Lord Jesus help us!
The Internet has truly sunk two rounds in the back of the head of Churchanity. 
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07-07-2016, 04:33 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
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Exactly!
What I'm saying is that whether Paul was a widower or divorcee.... Paul wasn't the "husband of one wife" (present tense). And if his wife was merely "estranged" and Paul lived in celibacy, one could say that Paul wasn't able to rule his house well, with his wife being in submission to him.
Either way you go, if this list of admonitions are read as legalistic requirements, Paul would have essentially disqualified himself from being an elder.
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Being husband of one wife does not mean one MUST be married. It just means if one IS a husband, he has to have one wife, because polygamy was an issue in those days.
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07-07-2016, 05:26 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
So, a guy never married, never ran a household, can be an overseer of the household of God?
Doesn't that sound just a wee bit like it defeats Paul's entire statement?
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07-07-2016, 10:56 PM
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Re: Disqualifications for ministry
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Being husband of one wife does not mean one MUST be married. It just means if one IS a husband, he has to have one wife, because polygamy was an issue in those days.
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Amen
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