Trump 2016

[aegsm76]

So, who is the better Christian?
Trump or BHO?
Or maybe I should say Trump or Hillary?
lol

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

So, who is the better Christian?
Trump or BHO?
Or maybe I should say Trump or Hillary?
lol

It is a trick question.
Neither one is a christian.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by n david

Todd Starnes:
"""Just got back from Trump's "conversation" with Evangelicals. No mention of Jesus."""

Everything wrong with Trump and Evangelicals is summed up in that quote.

Not to say that Todd Starnes is lying, but I found a transcript.

link

https://www.yahoo.com/news/transcrip...195810824.html

snippets

The Apostles turned their back on the Lord Jesus Christ in his greatest hour of need, they turned their backs and they ran
I invited Christ to come into my heart and my life. He forgave me. There’s no perfect person — there’s only one, and that’s the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you for sending your son Jesus Christ from heaven to this earth to save us
And in Jesus’ name, we pray. Amen.

And there is more, but you should get the picture.

[n david]

One of the Generals Trump is possibly vetting for VP has stated he would "love" to see Israel give up its nuclear weapons.

Also stated this morning, regarding abortion, that a woman must be allowed to choose.

#NeverTrump

[n david]

Trump's lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to the ghostwriter of "Art of the Deal," demanding he give up his first amendment rights and not share his feelings of Trump, and that he pay back the advance and monies received from royalties.

But wait, Trump claims he wrote the book, so how could there be a ghostwriter. Unless Trump is a big, fat, orange liar.

Regardless, this continues a pattern for Trump, in which he will try and strongarm any dissenting voice.

And you dumb Trumpsters want this guy as POTUS!

[n david]

Trump received a veteran's Purple Heart medal today in VA.

"I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier."

smh

[Antipas]

Trump is an unevolved consciousness.

[n david]

Trump and the baby. Hilarious.

Baby starts crying during Trump's speech:
"Don't worry about that baby, I love babies. I love babies! I hear that baby crying. I like it! What a baby, what a beautiful baby. Don't worry, don't worry. The mom's running around, like don't worry about it, you know. It's young and beautiful and healthy and that's what we want.

Baby continues to cry...Trump continues speech...
"Actually I was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here. That's alright. Don't worry - I, I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I'm speaking. That's ok. People don't understand. That's okay."

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

So, who is the better Christian?
Trump or BHO?
Or maybe I should say Trump or Hillary?
lol

In my opinion, BHO stopped the bleeding from the Bush Administration. Here is a breakdown based on statistics from last January. Bush's last year vs. Obama:

Unemployment Rate: 7.2% vs. 50.1%
Cost of gallons of gas: $3.24 vs. $2:31
Uninsured Rate: 15% vs. 9.2%
Oil barrels imported: 11 million vs. 4.5 million
Teen pregnancy: 40.2/1k vs. 26.5/1k
Iran's centrifuges: 19,000 vs. 6,000
DGP Growth: -0.3% vs. +3.7%
Down Jones: 10,355 vs. 16,271

I don't know who is more "Christian", because that term can be defined rather broadly. However, if we asked who (between Bush and Obama) has truly helped stabilize the average American family, I'd have to say, Obama.

So, if Trump's policies are just a repeat of the Republican policies we had under Bush, it can be argued that Obama has done more for the prosperity and stabilization of the average American family than Trump might. If Hillary will continue the progressive measures of Obama's that have helped the prosperity of the average American family, and perhaps even address the cost of student loan debt and the cost of higher education, a more affordable public option for health insurance, and a pro-American jobs plan that rejects TPP (something she has waffled on quite a bit), it can be argued that between Trump and Hillary, Hillary will benefit the average American family far more than Trump.

In all honesty, Trump is a billionaire with billionaire buddies. I would expect the largest tax cut and the largest corporate subsidies package ever to be granted under Trump. After all, he'd essentially be issuing himself several billion in tax cuts and subsidies. He'd make a fortune off of being President. Trump doesn't strike me as the ethical sort who would be above doing such a thing. In no time, we'd be living through the economic austerity of the Bush years all over again.

That being said, we can ask, "Is a domestic policy platform that helps the average American family the "Christian" thing to do (rather one is decidedly Christian or not)?" If so, then Hillary would be considered more "Christian" than Trump.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Antipas

In my opinion, BHO stopped the bleeding from the Bush Administration. Here is a breakdown based on statistics from last January. Bush's last year vs. Obama:

Unemployment Rate: 7.2% vs. 50.1%
Cost of gallons of gas: $3.24 vs. $2:31
Uninsured Rate: 15% vs. 9.2%
Oil barrels imported: 11 million vs. 4.5 million
Teen pregnancy: 40.2/1k vs. 26.5/1k
Iran's centrifuges: 19,000 vs. 6,000
DGP Growth: -0.3% vs. +3.7%
Down Jones: 10,355 vs. 16,271

You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you.

Unemployment rate? That doesn't take into account those who have left the work force. We went from ~60 million who left the work force completely, to over 90 million. That's a 50% INCREASE in people who were no longer looking for work.

Uninsured rate? While it can be argued that there were those who couldn't afford insurance, many more of those were people who didn't care about health insurance. Add to that, the number of people whose insurance rates jumped dramatically (from several hundred, to several thousand dollars). For the record, I do not have insurance even now, because I refuse to support this un-Constitutional demand that I buy it.

Oil barrels imported? Really? The only reason drilling is on the rise, is because it's happening on privately owned land. Publicly owned land is being constantly denied access for oil drilling.

Teen pregnancy? Oh, for the love of.... I don't see how you can possibly either A) blame that on Bush, or B) give credit to Obama. How in the world is either one responsible for that? Not to mention, I wonder how many of those ended up killing their baby, through abortion, which Obama and his party supports.

Iran? Obama gave them carte blanche to have their own nuclear program. A country that endorses wiping America and Israel completely off the map.

DGP? I assume you meant GDP? I'd have to see the numbers, but I'm convinced even without seeing them, that the numbers have been fudged. This administration (in truth, any Dem administration) and their media lackeys, would never report anything that hurts The One.

Dow Jones? While government can do things that affect the stock market, it's not government run, and thus I can't see how you can possibly give him any credit.

Allow me to add to this list.

$897 billion dollars. That's $897,000,000,000, which is just shy of $1 trillion dollars. That's how much the so-called stimulus (a.k.a. the Porkulus) package stole from the American taxpayers. It did not generate jobs, it did not rejuvenate the economy. If anything, it lengthened the recession, by stealing money out of the economy, when it was needed there most.

There is not one thing that Obama has done, which is good for the economy.