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Old 08-04-2016, 05:26 PM
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The fig tree blossoming is a symbol of all the events happening that Jesus listed, IN ONE GENERATION. It's not Israel nor is it Israel becoming a nation. It is all THESE THINGS Jesus listed including the temple destruction. So, if the temple was destroyed in AD70, the generation alive then is the generation, as well as all the other events happening in that same time period.

Matthew 24:32-33 KJV Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: (33) So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
unless Jesus is talking about the generation of the church. Psalm 22:30
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:30 PM
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Not trying to nitpick, but why do preterists always use historicist commentators instead of preterist commentators? Just wondering.

by doing that they miss the near and far double interpretation of prophecy in the Bible.
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by doing that they miss the near and far double interpretation of prophecy in the Bible.
There ca be no double fulfillment for things like tribulation such as never was nor ever shall be. If it happened once with a second fulfillment, then the second cannot be greater than it ever was. If it is fulfilled once, and a second time, then the first is not greater than what shall be.
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unless Jesus is talking about the generation of the church. Psalm 22:30
He limited the generation to that which hear Him speak. He looked in their eyes and told them, "this generation." It's like Peter on the day of Pentecost saying Joel's prophecy was fulfilled in that day by saying, "This (what happened on the day of Pentecost) is that (what Joel foretold)."
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well, i've read the preterist commentary, and it does not seem to fit too well either imo.
To each his own.
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Not trying to nitpick, but why do preterists always use historicist commentators instead of preterist commentators? Just wondering.

It matters not who writes truth. Truth is truth. That does not validate everything else a person believes, though. But not sure why anyone would even ask this.
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There ca be no double fulfillment for things like tribulation such as never was nor ever shall be. If it happened before the second fulfillment, then it cannot be greater than it ever was. If it is fulfilled once, and a second time, then it is not greater than what shall be.
Double fulfillment?

Beatings in the synagogue...when?

Mark 13:9 was fulfilled in Acts 22:19?
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Not trying to nitpick, but why do preterists always use historicist commentators instead of preterist commentators? Just wondering.

Maybe they were really closet Preterists???

I know a lot of them
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He limited the generation to that which hear Him speak. He looked in their eyes and told them, "this generation." It's like Peter on the day of Pentecost saying Joel's prophecy was fulfilled in that day by saying, "This (what happened on the day of Pentecost) is that (what Joel foretold)."
i don't know, you gotta admit, reading the chapter, it starts out that way, but ends up talking about something more timeless, as Miz alludes to.
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To each his own.
well, it seems like you attempted a reply to "the same way you saw Him leave is the way you will see Him return," but i would have to ask you to restate it, perhaps more succinctly, as i didn't get it. And just for the record, i am prolly some kind of preterist; i just feel compelled therein to examine the...futurist? pov.
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