Judging Others is a Condemnation of Self

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Leviticus 19:17 informs us that refusing to rebuke your neighbor for sin is hating your neighbor.

You cannot love your neighbor by enabling them and saying "I'm OK, you're OK". That's Biblically defined as hating your neighbor.

Amen, spare the rod spoil the child. Even God chastens those He loves. We aren't to beat each other up. Yet, we aren't supposed to form a little bless me club either.

[shazeep]

You got that part right, sort of, i guess. I curse you, for teaching hate to sheep, when your best boy has clearly failed to defend it in so many places, and you refuse the job. You guys are playing with fire here, seeking God's glory, pretending you know and can judge, and that God will be mocked, when a simple admission that you do not know would suffice.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Leviticus 19:17 informs us that refusing to rebuke your neighbor for sin is hating your neighbor.

which is why i called for witnesses to Muslim's sin against anyone, many times--how many bombs have Muslims dropped on your hometown?--and also why i tell you that you are lost, and will die in your sin if you do not change your mind. Now you have been rebuked, what are you going to do about it?

Originally Posted by Esaias

You cannot love your neighbor by enabling them and saying "I'm OK, you're OK". That's Biblically defined as hating your neighbor.

What you are doing here is justifying a way that you get to have your way, which has nothing to do with Scripture, but your appropriation of it. Surely you are feeling the love right now, and are 'curious,' yes? The only reason i can see that you keep this up, when you cannot defend your point, and ran at "gutless," is because you think this is some game or something with no consequences, and that pastors can mock God with impunity.

If you persist, you will come to see another principle, and understand why you have to fake your healings now, because you cannot pray for both sickness and health from the same mouth. Keep praying sickness here upon yourself, day after day, and you are going to get sick, i mean it isn't rocket science, you are going to get more and more stressed about it as you look worse and worse trying to defend "Pay no attention to Christ" every day here, until eventually it makes you sick just to come here, at what point you will become a "sticky" for a day or two, urgent prayer for healing needed
just keep it up and see.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by mfblume

So, what say ye? Is it judging people to point at scripture that says all who are baptized and believe are saved, and apply that to people who were not baptized and did not believe to indicate they're lost and need to be saved??

Poor Peter! He told people they were lost and needed Acts 2:38. Where was the love of God?

Ironically the love of God is manifested in people who reach out to others with the saving gospel, telling how God so loved them He sent His Son to the cross.

bump

The entire accusation of judging seems to be so far off the wall, without a direct answer to this question.

This point has been ignored for months about this issue, and plugging of the ears makes people think they're justified in their position. Meanwhile the question remains....

While others remained objective and non personal the insults proved the personal emphasis with some. Proved, I say.

[KeptByTheWord]

The Lord is the one who is to do the judging, and the casting off of the branches/trees that are unfruitful, but we can KNOW them by their fruits, in other words... we can know by the fruit being produced if one is producing good or evil fruit .... but the casting off and cutting down, and casting into the fire is the Lord's business, not ours.

Matt. 7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

You got that part right, sort of, i guess. (1) I curse you, for teaching hate to sheep, when your best boy has clearly failed to defend it in so many places, and you refuse the job. You guys are playing with fire here, seeking God's glory, pretending you know and can judge, and that God will be mocked, when a simple admission that you do not know would suffice.
which is why (2) i called for witnesses to Muslim's sin against anyone, many times--how many bombs have Muslims dropped on your hometown?--and also why i tell you that you are lost, and will die in your sin if you do not change your mind. Now you have been rebuked, what are you going to do about it?

So now you are doing what you have accused others of doing; which
is CONDEMNING ("I curse you"). Do you believe you will fare any better?
Are you not pretending to seek OUR God's glory, the God who created
the heavens ad the earth, and expect to be free from judgment?

You ask for a witness to "muslims' sin": Well, then, who are the
suicide bombers that have killed thousands of innocent people that have
done them no harm. Who is condoning the actions of those terrorists,
even with their silence and allowing the terrorists to hide among them?
They are muslims, justifying their deeds with a religion that offers life
for inflicting death to others. And THAT is the biggest difference between
Islam and true Christianity: we are called to die to SELF, that others may
live: not kill others, that we may live!

This is another sin that muslims have perpetuated, although it has been
done in ignorance: you have accused TRUE BELIEVERS in the God who has
created the heavens and the earth of bombing innocent men, women and
children. In that, you are bearing false witness: for no TRUE BELIEVER
would ever do such a thing. Those are FALSE CHRISTIANS, who are just
as deceived in their thinking as are muslims.

"Judge righteous judgment."

[shazeep]

yet you are going to vote, thus legitimizing them, and allow for no TRUE BELIEVER among foreigners who would never commit atrocities. So again you highlight hypocrisy while pretending to fight it. You might consider the Word of those you respect, if you cannot hear me, wadr.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

The Lord is the one who is to do the judging, and the casting off of the branches/trees that are unfruitful, but we can KNOW them by their fruits, in other words... we can know by the fruit being produced if one is producing good or evil fruit .... but the casting off and cutting down, and casting into the fire is the Lord's business, not ours.

Matt. 7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

^

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

yet you are going to vote, thus legitimizing them, and allow for no TRUE BELIEVER among foreigners who would never commit atrocities. So again you highlight hypocrisy while pretending to fight it. You might consider the Word of those you respect, if you cannot hear me, wadr.

There you go, again, judging True Believers in unrighteousness.

Christians will give to Caesar "...the things that are Caesar's...:, and give
to God what belongs to God. And what belongs to OUR God is praying to
"...let Your will, not mine be done." Sometimes He allows evil men to be
over evil men...even to bomb evil men unto submission: but it's beyond
your natural understanding.

"Whosoever sheds man's blood, by men will their blood be shed."
God knows how to make a difference between them that are His, and them
that only pretend to be His. God raises up evil men to punish evil men: and
He keeps our hands (True Believers hands, that is) free from shedding any
innocent blood.

"Judge righteous judgment."

[shazeep]

There you go, again, judging True Believers in unrighteousness.

yes; exactly as Scripture directs, not judging those i do not know.

[shazeep]

but it's beyond your natural understanding.

what's beyond my natural understanding is how anyone who participates in that world can imagine that they will not be held responsible for their actions. If you vote, you are going to be held accountable imo