You not preaching holiness till you've named it!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Folks, you want everyone to refrain from jewelry, fine. I need say no more. I disagree with your insistence, and there's no reason to get competitive in a debate over it. Just disagree. I am just saying the thought that one thing being sin in the old testament and not sin now doesn't work and I'll never agree with such a thing as it now stands. The headcovering issue was not a sin in the old any more than it is in the new, as much as the old covenant is not sinful now though things have changed. It's just not a sin issue, I think.

The basis of your reasoning was "something allowed under the OT which represented a good thing cannot be wrong under the NT", and I demonstrated the reasoning was in error using two distinct examples of head covering and long hair.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The basis of your reasoning was "something allowed under the OT which represented a good thing cannot be wrong under the NT", and I demonstrated the reasoning was in error using two distinct examples of head covering and long hair.

The issue is sin.

[Cracker Barrel]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The issue is sin.

In your opinion of how you understand scripture. Can a woman who continually cuts her hair and a man dat never gets a haircut make it to heaven?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The issue is sin.

The issue was originally "what is holiness and how should it be preached?" People wanted to focus on "standards", and the issue became "should Christian (women) wear jewelry?" You and brother FZ took the position that "what was used in the OT to represent spiritually good things cannot be wrong under the new covenant, today", which I demonstrated was not true.

Responding with "the issue is sin" doesn't really make any logical sense as a response. Not sure how your statement affects the status of the discussion?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

God doesn't want us to wear gold, nor does He want us to have facial hair.

Split hell wide open.

If he did not wanted us to have facial hair, then why he invented it.

I guess Aaron, David and Ezekiel have split hell wide open.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The issue was originally "what is holiness and how should it be preached?" People wanted to focus on "standards", and the issue became "should Christian (women) wear jewelry?" You and brother FZ took the position that "what was used in the OT to represent spiritually good things cannot be wrong under the new covenant, today", which I demonstrated was not true.

Responding with "the issue is sin" doesn't really make any logical sense as a response. Not sure how your statement affects the status of the discussion?

How strange I was under the impression that the Book of Revelation was New Testament not Old Testament, and the book of Revelation does use Jewelry to represent spiritually good things.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

In your opinion of how you understand scripture. Can a woman who continually cuts her hair and a man dat never gets a haircut make it to heaven?

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[Esaias]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

How strange I was under the impression that the Book of Revelation was New Testament not Old Testament, and the book of Revelation does use Jewelry to represent spiritually good things.

Care to address the points I made, which are more to the point than apocalyptic visions?

[Cracker Barrel]

Ezekiel 28:13-17
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thyways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground,....

[Cracker Barrel]

Originally Posted by Cracker Barrel

Ezekiel 28:13-17
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thyways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground,....

The garments, the very vesture of satan was made of precious stones. The pride of his beauty is what caused him to be self exalted. It has been his objective to place his beauty upon humanity. If he could put his beauty upon Gods temple it ceases to belong to God. The quest of the true sincere Saint is to press toward the mark of the high calling of Jesus Christ. Not the lowly elements of this world, and all its pride and false beauty.

That's why any form of makeup is wrong to put on. That's why and form of jewelry is wrong to put on. That's why it's wrong for a man to dress like a woman, or a woman to dress in a mans garment. That's why it's wrong for a woman or a man to carry themselves flirtatious or loose, unbecoming of a Christian. Because it's false, it's artificial, it's of the devil, who has come to steal kill and destroy!

Come on preacher Name it!