You not preaching holiness till you've named it!

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Partial preterism accounts for that belief. Jesus is coming back for His church. Just wondered why you put a BUT in there since it sounds like you did not know partial preterism believes in a future second coming for the church.



Adam's BODY, so to speak, was Eve. Bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh. And yet he still had his own personal body of arms, legs and torso. Same with Christ.

I should say it a little differently, because of the stigma about preterism I would not put myself in the camp. I guess I would rather stay out of any camp for that matter. MB, you have been very insightful in some of things you have posted (especially concerning the book of Daniel). If most futurists would hear you out I dare to say that you would have a lot of common ground.

I think many get the idea, Preterism (whether partial of full) that you teach a past resurrection rather than a future. Because of that stigma, I don't want to be categorized with that thinking (whether it is false or not).

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by shazeep

can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear someone who knows say they don't know!
i don't either, but my current theory is Christ is only "waiting" for a prepared bride now.

Sooooooooo

If new converts (new BIRTH) are a resulr of the relationship between the Spirit and the Church, is Christ committing fornication with His Bride until the marriage?

[TJJJ]

The marriage of the Lamb began at Pentecost.

Many analogies in the church.

We are a result of the Spirit working in the Church, thus the new birth.

We, at the New Birth, become the Bride of Christ ready to help New Souls come in.

Yet we also at the new birth become the Body of Christ, the Church.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Partial preterism accounts for that belief. Jesus is coming back for His church. Just wondered why you put a BUT in there since it sounds like you did not know partial preterism believes in a future second coming for the church.



Adam's BODY, so to speak, was Eve. Bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh. And yet he still had his own personal body of arms, legs and torso. Same with Christ.

Yeah, we call it the church.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Sooooooooo

If new converts (new BIRTH) are a resulr of the relationship between the Spirit and the Church, is Christ committing fornication with His Bride until the marriage?

That is so diabolical that I really don't know where to start in answering it. I guess one analogy that can be used is that the bride is in preparation. Souls being won to the Lord is in preparation for his Return. The Holy Spirit is the dowry paid on the bride. The marriage of the lamb is not past it is future.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I should say it a little differently, because of the stigma about preterism I would not put myself in the camp. I guess I would rather stay out of any camp for that matter. MB,

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Don't worry about stigma. Christ has a stigma and he warned us to take it with Him. We start worring about what people think of us then we're in trouble.

you have been very insightful in some of things you have posted (especially concerning the book of Daniel). If most futurists would hear you out I dare to say that you would have a lot of common ground.

I think many get the idea, Preterism (whether partial of full) that you teach a past resurrection rather than a future. Because of that stigma, I don't want to be categorized with that thinking (whether it is false or not).

Partial preterism patently does NOT teach a past resurrection. That's why I wrote the previous post. Instead of letting people think that they need to be corrected.

Anyway, I call this kingdom eschatology, instead anyway.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Yeah, we call it the church.

Wrong.

My wife's my body. But I still have arms and legs.

lol.

That's been said enough, and it's too precious a pearl to throw away any more.

[good samaritan]

Don't worry about stigma. Christ has a stigma and he warned us to take it with Him. We start worring about what people think of us then we're in trouble.

I agree with you, but a lot of labels that we put out there, are not biblical terms anyway.

Partial preterism patently does NOT teach a past resurrection. That's why I wrote the previous post. Instead of letting people think that they need to be corrected.

Anyway, I call this kingdom eschatology, instead anyway.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

That is so diabolical that I really don't know where to start in answering it. I guess one analogy that can be used is that the bride is in preparation. Souls being won to the Lord is in preparation for his Return. The Holy Spirit is the dowry paid on the bride. The marriage of the lamb is not past it is future.

Diabolical? Huh? That is a stupid statement........

Diabolical.....

Diabolic
DIABOLIC, DIABOLICAL, a. [L., the devil.] Devilish; pertaining to the devil; hence, extremely malicious; impious; atrocious; nefarious; outrageously wicked; partaking of any quality ascribed to the devil; as a diabolical temper; a diabolical scheme or action.

Climb back in your dispensational hole and stay there.

[good samaritan]

God doesn't commit fornication and the wedding has not taken place. To suggest that if the wedding hasn't occurred then God is a fornicator is diabolical. P.S. I am not a dispationalist. I meant no personal offence, but the logic in the point that you made is what I was referencing.