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09-19-2016, 05:56 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
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According to Bill's website/blog, he (again?) believes in one God in three persons.
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other than opposing oneness, what is the fruit of this, i have to ask myself.
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09-19-2016, 10:22 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
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other than opposing oneness, what is the fruit of this, i have to ask myself.
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Bill and I go way back on this and previous forums.
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09-19-2016, 11:11 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
and has any fruit come of it yet?
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09-24-2016, 07:05 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
Esaias, back to topic...
Any more thoughts on this... Acts 15:10 and Paul's use of law to only find failure. Please cite my posts on the issue. Thanks!
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09-24-2016, 07:32 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
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So, you've gone BACK to trinity?
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Back? There is no back and forth with Mr Bill.
He is like a rolodex in the mind of a shape shifting reptilian. Who only professes that which helps it blend with its temporary host victim.
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09-24-2016, 07:46 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
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09-26-2016, 09:36 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
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Esaias, back to topic...
Any more thoughts on this... Acts 15:10 and Paul's use of law to only find failure. Please cite my posts on the issue. Thanks!
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09-26-2016, 12:37 PM
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I will try to answer tonight, right now I'm off to the boxing gym.
(cue Rocky theme...)
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09-26-2016, 01:08 PM
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09-26-2016, 11:00 PM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep
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Esaias, back to topic...
Any more thoughts on this... Acts 15:10 and Paul's use of law to only find failure. Please cite my posts on the issue. Thanks!
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I assume you are referring to this:
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Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Acts 15: 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
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Paul's use of the law in Romans was to establish that the unregenerate Jew could not rely upon his Sinaitic covenantal status to establish his righteousness in the eyes of God. The reason being that the law declared that 'there is none righteous, no not one'. He clarified by saying 'whatsoever the law says, it says to them that are under the law.' And thus, he showed that according to the law, everyone under the law had no righteousness to boast of. The Gentiles, not being in covenant, were automatically assumed to be unrighteous. The Jew trusted that he was 'not like other men', that is, Gentiles, that is, he was covenanted to God under the law and therefore was one of the 'saints of God'. But since the law declared (to those under the law) that 'there is none righteous', it follows that there is none under the law who could boast or trust that they were righteous under the law. The law itself declared, de facto and de jure, that 'there is none righteous', so even if a Jew was not conscious of any particular sin, and could not be convicted of any particular sin, yet he was still 'under sin' by the authoritative declaration of the law. And so Paul says the following:
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
( Romans 3:9-19 KJV)
Romans 5 which you cited was where Paul is declaring that Adam's sin was the occasion by which sin entered the world, and his disobedience brought sin upon all, and that contrariwise, Christ (doing what Adam failed to do) provides the occasion for all to be made righteous. All who are in Adam are constituted sinners, but all who are in Christ are constituted righteous. Not sure how you were referring to that verse in this discussion, perhaps you could explain?
I will address Acts 15 in my next post.
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