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Old 09-20-2016, 09:16 AM
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Re: Choosing lesser of two evils?

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DT is not dangerous that's just hyperbole.
I think Trump is dangerous for several reasons:
- During a security briefing Trump asked about the possibility of using "nukes" about three times. When it was explained to him that using nuclear weapons on the battlefront wasn't a part of our conventional military strategy he asked why we have them if we can't use them. Notice, as result North Korea has stepped up its testing of nuclear weapons to rattle the sabers. Trump's question regarding using nukes shows where his mind is. He is actually interested in using nuclear weapons. Why else would he ask repeatedly and then offer a question of complaint as to why we have them if we don't use them. The man clearly has no real-world grasp on our nation's position on using nukes or international laws governing the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

- Trumps comments stating that he'd place fiscal conditions on defending NATO flies in the face of all treaty agreements with our NATO allies. Essentially, NATO views an attack on any of it's members as an attack on all it's members. This is acts as a deterrent with regards to any nation who even considers attacking a member of NATO. Why would Donald Trump take such an unprecedented position? Let's consider how close Trump is to Vladimir Putin. Let's also consider Trump's business and investment partnerships in Russia. Now, consider Russia's agenda... the Ukraine. Vladimir Putin has been hungry to bring the Ukraine back under Russian authority since it gained it's independence. However, the Ukraine has been courting the NATO alliance since 1994. In 2008 the Ukraine applied to join NATO's Membership Action Plan. In 2014, those plans were put on hold by the political regime that took over. After Russian military began to intervene in the Ukraine, the Ukrainian government made joining NATO a priority again in October 2014. Due to the Ukraine's relationship with NATO, member nations have considered the Ukraine's independence from Russia as being in the best interests of NATO. Essentially, Trump either wants an excuse to look the other way should Russia invade the Ukraine.... or .... Vladimir Putin and/or Trump's Russian investors and business partners have put the pressure on Trump to take such a position, and Trump caved. Either way, Trumps position on NATO is destabilizing and undermines NATO strength, especially when it comes to conflict negotiation. Imagine a world wherein other countries aren't so afraid of NATO due to the United States placing fiscal restriction's on rather it acts to defend member nations or not. In other words.... war becomes a business deal. The United States can choose not to intervene.... if the price is right. This is fascism at its finest.

- Please note, Russia has hacked into the servers not only of the DNC, but also of Congressional Democrats. WHY is Russia wanting to meddle in this election so bad? We can be assured that whatever Russia views as being in their best interests is NOT in our best interests. If the Russians are for Trump, be assured, we shouldn't be. And not only did Russia do this, in violation of international laws governing cyber attacks and espionage, but Trump seemed to find it "amusing" and instead of condemning the Russians for meddling in our democratic process and hacking into congressional servers, Trump applauded them and encouraged them to do further investigation to find "Hillary's emails". This is bordering on treason. Regardless of Trump being Hillary's political rival, both Trump and Hillary should be united in their condemnation of Russia's actions. This only underscores how cozy Trump is with Russia. Trump is ready to take the lead and sell the world to the highest bidder. This is NOT the ethical way to do things.
For the record, Russia fears Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton has publically compared Putin with Hitler and even questioned if he had a soul. Hillary has taken a hard line against any of Putin's interests when she was in the Senate and when she was a member of the Armed Services Committee. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took a hard line against Russia's dreams of expansion into the Ukraine, Russia's support of Iran and Syria (including weapons deals), and Russia's opposition to NATO and their desire to weaken the alliance. Frankly, the idea of Hillary Clinton becoming President would be a nightmare for a presently emboldened Russia. Based on history, a future Clinton Administration would be far tougher on Russia than the Obama Administration has been. This is one reason why most top brass in the military support Clinton over Trump. Trump is dangerous to our interests.


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what is dangerous is letting a self professed Progressive appoint 3 or 4 Supreme Court Justices.

THAT is dangerous.
What would be so dangerous about it? The majority of the current SCOTUS was appointed by conservatives. And these conservative appointed justices have ruled against the people in favor of corporate power repeatedly, and still tended to favor liberal social causes. I'd like to see a liberal SCOTUS strike down corporate personhood and restrain corporate power to the extent intended by our founders. The only thing a liberal SCOTUS might do that would bother me is the possibility of the SCOTUS favoring more gun control.

So yes, Trump is dangerous.

And a liberal SCOTUS wouldn't be too bad, aside from the possibility of more gun control measures.
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