cute or dangerous

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Just heard that one of the UPCI youth camps had a 12 year old "preacher".
Sigh...

A preacher is not a pastor

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by jfrog

A preacher is not a pastor

AMEN!

[Jenny]

My first friend in the UPC was a sweet young woman who told me she had danced in the spirit at age 9. She was absolutely sincere. And Jesus did say "suffer the little children to come unto me." She would always help people plant new churches and lead the singing. But she never once tried to be the center of attention. I think we should let the Lord work in the child, and not let them just imitate people to get praise. (I think someone already said this.)
What are people doing with cell phones and cameras in the church in the first place? That doesn't seem very reverent....

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jenny

What are people doing with cell phones and cameras in the church in the first place? That doesn't seem very reverent....

As a man once said about electric lighting.

[Jenny]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

As a man once said about electric lighting.

Smartphones seem to have some good Bible apps for following the readings and for taking notes. But I don't see the value of checking Facebook or taking pictures of the congregation during the service. If that makes me old-fashioned, so be it. I do, by the way, like electric lights until I have to change a lightbulb high up and have to drag out that ladder - not so fond of them then! :-)
I'll be happy to change my mind if you can give me a reason. Thanks for taking the time to reply. You all have a good weekend!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jenny

Smartphones seem to have some good Bible apps for following the readings and for taking notes. But I don't see the value of checking Facebook or taking pictures of the congregation during the service. If that makes me old-fashioned, so be it. I do, by the way, like electric lights until I have to change a lightbulb high up and have to drag out that ladder - not so fond of them then! :-)
I'll be happy to change my mind if you can give me a reason. Thanks for taking the time to reply. You all have a good weekend!

You don't see the value.

Someone else might see the value, and may not be offending God while they are at it.

I teach a study group where everyone has an electronic device of some sort. They have multiple windows open to all sorts of Greek, Hebrew, Latin, Archeological websites, UPCI websites, you name it. Anything I teach they check, they then come up with questions which run from Dan to Beersheba.

Church I don't believe they should be chatting with God knows who, or tweeting away. But if they are using that device to look up verses or Bible, then it works. But I believe in freewill participation, and you don't need to be scanning Facebook to not be with the congregation. It is like a guy falling to sleep in church. He isn't really in church. Yes, he is in a building and in a pew, but he isn't in service. Same with those who are scanning mumbo jumbo when they are using their devices for things other than Church while they are n service.

So, like people falling asleep in church is the joker on snapchat and facebook.

We hopefully, pray that one day they get a revelation and wake up?

Meanwhile we will proceed forward in Jesus name

[Jenny]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You don't see the value.

Someone else might see the value, and may not be offending God while they are at it.

I teach a study group where everyone has an electronic device of some sort. They have multiple windows open to all sorts of Greek, Hebrew, Latin, Archeological websites, UPCI websites[...]
you don't need to be scanning Facebook to not be with the congregation. It is like a guy falling to sleep in church. He isn't really in church. Yes, he is in a building and in a pew, but he isn't in service. Same with those who are scanning mumbo jumbo when they are using their devices for things other than Church while they are n service.

So, like people falling asleep in church is the joker on snapchat and facebook.

We hopefully, pray that one day they get a revelation and wake up?

Meanwhile we will proceed forward in Jesus name

Your study group sounds wonderful. Now there's a good use of technology to deepen our knowledge of the Lord. If you know the website offhand of a good Greek-English Interlinear translation on the web I would appreciate having that address. I have scleroderma in my hands so I can't carry much more than my Bible at one time anymore. That is just great to know that exists. Also if you know the website of a good Greek Lexicon. Don't go to any trouble hunting, just if you know it off the top of your head I'd appreciate it.
But I do disagree with you that someone falling asleep in the pew equates to Facebook usage. Some people are just tired and the flesh is weak, and they fall asleep in the middle of the service. They are not distracting anyone unless they start to snore, and then there's always somebody nearby to jiggle their shoulder. I don't think there's anything wrong with crying babies, people having coughing fits, people dropping hymn books, and the like. Those are not deliberate things people chose to do that distract people. A good "Amen!" or the like is a natural part of the service. But taking pictures, using Facebook, and sticking cell phones in people's faces are deliberate choices. I don't believe they can be in any way equated.
I don't mean to be contrary, but we may have to agree to disagree.