UPCI Mega Churches???

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Brethren, Jude 1:7 does not AT ALL say what you all think.

The Greek word for "strange" as in strange flesh is:

hetero

As in heterosexual. Hetero means "different". Homo means "same".

See: http://biblehub.com/interlinear/jude/1-7.htm

See: http://biblehub.com/greek/2087.htm

The sin that occurred there is that the people of Sodom lusted after "different" flesh, that is, they wanted to fornicate with ANGELS, who, though they were in the form of man, were not actually humans. It wasn't about a homosexual rape gang. It was about people who wanted to have some nirvana experience by bedding angels, who, it was often believed, gave humans secret knowledge and understanding, often through sexual liaisons.

See Genesis 6, as an example, re: the sons of God, something Jude mentions as one of the examples of ungodliness, before referring to Enoch, a tome in which fallen angels procreate with humans and give humans forbidden knowledge in the process.

Yes, there was fornication in Sodom and Gomorrah, but no actual proof of homosexuality. Not a single verse of it happening. No verse indicating it didn't, either. So the Bible is silent here, and so should we be, except for their lusting after angelic flesh.

Why then was it men that came after the angels, and not women? Would women not want that "forbidden knowledge" as well? I would think so, if your scenario were to play out as you say. This makes it quite obvious that "homo" activity was at play here, and not just desiring angelic flesh or supernatural knowledge.

Just because the word "homo" is not specifically used, certainly what happened there describes that kind of activity. That is like looking at the forest and saying there is no forest, only trees.

International Standard Version
Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like them committed sexual sins and pursued homosexual activities, serve as an example of the punishment of eternal fire.

NET Bible
So also Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighboring towns, since they indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire in a way similar to these angels, are now displayed as an example by suffering the punishment of eternal fire.

New Living Translation
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.

English Standard Version
just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.