Do You Ever Think Of Going Back?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

It will.

You can bank on it.

Dreams have nothing to do with the UPC. Dreams affect things around you. Dreams change everything. Now your surrounding should not affect your dreams, but sometime they do. I have certain dreams that could not be fulfilled while I am apart of the UPC or another organization with like beliefs.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

I'd like to add...



And place her above God...

Now that wouldn't right. The Father is NOT the Mother but he did purchase the Mother with his own blood.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

I'd like to add...



And place her above God...

And some people treat their mother like dirt. Let's not forget that either.

[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Some folks are ingrates they have no thankfulness for the mother that birthed them and and nursed them.

Scripture says that the Jerusalem which is above is the Mother of us all. The mother is not an org.

Originally Posted by Rico

And some people treat their mother like dirt. Let's not forget that either.

"the UPC" is not my mother... nor is "the apostolic church"

[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

"the UPC" is not my mother... nor is "the apostolic church"

Great minds....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

Scripture says that the Jerusalem which is above is the Mother of us all. The mother is not an org.

Who said it was? The UPC was NOT my mother however the Apostolic church I prayed through at was. They birthed , nourished, and sustained me.
That was God's plan. I am NOT going to curse them. The homechurch is NOT what it was when I found the Lord at that altar and baptized in that tank and blessed with those people. But I am NOT going to curse what gave me birth. They were there for me when I needed them.

[Rico]

Well, I have to admit that I started this thread because I have been thinking lately that maybe things were better when I was in a more controlled church environment. I prayed more, read my Bible more, talked to God more, worshipped more.........man, I used the be the first one out of the chute! I was more blessed financially, the list goes on. But, at the same time, I know where being in that controlled environment led me to and I don't want to go back there either. It seems that all the controlling and micro managing just went totally overboard and it was either push back or let this man take complete control of my mind. I don't think that's what God wants. I know He wants to control my thinking, but I seriously doubt that His way of doing it is through the preacher. The preacher isn't God, he's just supposed to point me in that direction. I just wonder if there is a way to have all the good things that I had, without having to put up with all the bad things I dealt with.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

"the UPC" is not my mother... nor is "the apostolic church"

You don't consider the Church your spiritual mother, Ron? Forget about the UPC because this has nothing to do with the UPC.

Maybe you need to just discipline yourself more.

Perhaps the more structured environment was good for you personally.

Some of us need someone to prod us a little to do what we should...