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Originally Posted by JamesGlen
Rom. 8:9 if any don't have the Spirit, they're not His(so then they are obviously unsaved, - not born from above Jn 3)
John 7:39 That Spirit ,( the same as Rom 8:9 speaks by of) was not yet available for the 120 headed to the upper room, until the appointed time, so how could they possibly be saved prior to Acts 2:4, if they were none of His, since they "had not the Spirit", because the Spirit they seeked to have, was not available for them to have, until it was given in Acts 2:4?
That's hard for me to get around.
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Hello Bro. James! Glad to have you join the discussion
Let me ask you this? Would you spend months praying in a small room with 120 other people if the spirit of the Lord were not there convicting, and dealing with your heart?
In the words of Jesus he said ye shall receive power:
Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
The Holy Ghost in its fullest measure was given to empower the church like never before, with signs following. The HG had already been at work in the life of John, Elizabeth, Mary and Jesus too.
So, it wasn't for a matter of salvation that they tarried in the Upper Room, but the group understood that they were going to receive power from the Lord. There is no mention of salvation here, but that the power was coming so that they could be witnesses of Jesus throughout the world.
The HG was given to empower. The spirit of the Lord is at work in one's life in order to bring them to a place of repentance and baptism.
But to be fully empowered and endued with the spirit this comes when the Lord deems the heart is ready to receive the power from on high, and then signs will follow that.
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