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Originally Posted by peter83
I ask because in Greece church is a little different .And in this situation your opinion can count for me.
For example the "greek oneness apostolic" church believes that salvation,new birth is something distinct from the holy spirit baptism.There for they believe that if a person repents and be baptize in Jesus name then is "saved" and new born. And only after that he can ask for the holy spirit.
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This understanding would definitely bear witness with
Mark 16:16-18, and
Acts 2:38 too. That is wonderful to hear!
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Originally Posted by peter83
Ok there are some upci also and some people who only meet at homes. But general in Greee all the churches who came from a "mother" USA church trinitarians and oneness all teach the same doctrines about ..profesional preachers,tithing,woomen preaching,help of music for worship,prewriting messages, etc .Things that i do not agree (because i do not see this in bible)
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So you don't believe in professional preachers, tithing, women preachers, help of music for worship, and prewriting messages. I think I could agree with you in all of these things, except maybe the music, because music is not prohibited in any way in the NT, and we know instruments were used throughout the OT to worship the Lord.
I believe in giving, as the Lord has blessed, and not calling it "tithing" as the system of the OT changed at Calvary, including the priesthood/tithing etc. But giving to the ministry, to those who are working in the ministry, I do absolutely believe they should receive for their efforts. But it should be as the Lord blesses you and allows you to give, and not a burden of a certain amount.
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Originally Posted by peter83
I attent a trinity church last months (baptize both titles and Jesus name) and except that all the rest are biblical.
I pray to God to meke me know His will.But also i have a strong faith that the gospel in Greece must be and will be only about the cross with the power of the holy spirit , not with human wisdom and of course free for all without money or any deceit.
This church i found is biger than all the evangelical,trinitarian and oneness together with not any profetional paid pastor.this was that gave to me a question..how is this possible and then when i was thre and all was filling with the holy spirit without any helps but with a simplicity,that make me to think about ...where i stand until now and what was my faith about.
After that i loose any interest for "make an atmosphere" emotional humping screaming and all that.(i do not judge them ,but this is something cultural i think that dont and will not have an upplication in greek culture).And from onw side i thank God for all that,from the other i cry about the shredded body of Christ.
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The hype and the screaming that goes on and is called "worship" in many circles - yes, I agree with you on that. I can see where the Greek culture would not be accepting of that. Too bad they can't see that and tone things down.
You have a wonderful spirit and it is great to have you here participating in discussions with us. May the Lord bless you
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