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05-01-2017, 05:20 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by Aquila
In loving others we demonstrate our love for God. For love fulfills the whole Law.
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When you use the Greek word ἀγάπη what do YOU mean?
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Does this mean that some things under the Law of Moses are now permissible?
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OK what in the below verses are NOW permissible?
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMINATION.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are
ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God.
Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an ABOMINATION unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 11:20
They that are of a froward heart are ABOMINATION to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.
Proverbs 12:22
Lying lips are ABOMINATION to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
Proverbs 15:26
The thoughts of the wicked are an ABOMINATION to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
Proverbs 15:8
The sacrifice of the wicked is an ABOMINATION to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
Proverbs 16:5
Every one that is proud in heart is an ABOMINATION to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are ABOMINATION to the LORD.
Proverbs 20:10
Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike ABOMINATION to the LORD.
Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be ABOMINATION.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Yes. Does it mean that some seemingly innocent and permissible things are now sin? Yes.
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What was seemingly innocent in the list I offered you?
Aquila, do you like to win at board games?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
For love, the agape kind of love, divine love, fulfills the spirit and intent of the whole Law and demands infinitely more. Frankly, the Law of Moses is too low of a standard. It is a pathetic, basement level of carnal righteousness when compared to love, which is the Law of Christ, the Law of Liberty.
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But, it is said in the book of Acts that God once looked the other way at man's stupidity, but NOW He demands all to repent. The Law was just the slave who brought the youth to the teacher. So actually the law brought the Judean to Messiah. The Judean, not the New Jerseyite, but the Judean/Israelite who then taught the Greek. What you all believe the law to be isn't what the first century believer understood the law to be. Hence some of you guys end up in a gospel of inclusion, or full blown antinomianism.
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Wearing skirts down to your ankles doesn't prove that you love God more than the woman wearing pants.
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Neither does feeding the poor, or other good deeds.
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In fact, many women who wear pants love God more than those who only wear skirts and dresses.
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Get out of town, bro! Then here comes the ones who wear only dresses, "in fact, many women who wear dresses down to the floor love God more than those who only wear pants." Or the ones who are Muslims, "in fact, many women who are Muslim love God more than those who are Christians."
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Head coverings don't prove one loves God more than women who don't wear head coverings. Eating fish on Friday proves nothing. Refusing to eat a ham sandwich or shrimp scampi means nothing. Many who do eat these things love God as much or more than those who don't.
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Bro, you must think that everyone is an idiot, and are mindless slaves being led by legalistic ecclesiastical vampires. smh
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What proves to God how much we love Him? Visiting the orphan and the widow. Feeding the hungry, giving water to those who thirst, clothing the naked, loving one another, loving our enemies, preaching the Gospel...living and loving as a living extension of Jesus Himself.
That is true holiness.
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Bro, I know scores of people who are LEGALISTICALLY doing all the above.
Biggest hypocrites who ever walked in shoe leather. Funny thing is the homeless, and unchurched all know it. They go down to the homeless in the city of Fort Lauderdale, do their good deeds, tell them be warmed and fed, but give them nothing.
Bro, one day you will see what is behind the curtain, and I hope you all can deal with it. 
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05-01-2017, 05:26 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Consider this law...
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. While we can glean from this that homosexuality is a sin, this Law requires that we execute those guilty of this sin. Thus, if we are still under this law, we sin if we do not kill them.
But under grace, we can condemn, counsel, and address the sin as led of the Spirit...and we are not under a law requiring that we kill them. |
Led of the Spirit?
I understand that, but how do you understand that? If Paul was only using the Old Testament as his Bible. He had Leviticus 20:13 just as it was written. While he didn't cast the first stone, but he didn't wait for the individual to get some revelation. He read the book, and stopped what he was doing, endeavoring to never to do it again. Period.
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05-01-2017, 05:26 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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I believe you left something out...
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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And you need a silly list from some dusty Law of Moses to do that? You have Jesus Himself inside you. The Spirit will lead you beyond the Law of Moses. And love will fulfill the whole Law in one fell swoop. You can't name a moral sin that love wouldn't keep one from.
Romans 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Galatians 5:14
14 For ALL the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
James 2:8
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
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05-01-2017, 05:29 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
Just because I don't eat ham, or anything else the Law of Moses commands, it don't mean I love God or others.
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05-01-2017, 05:30 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
If you believe in keeping the Law of Moses, tell me, who'd you stone last? Lol
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05-01-2017, 05:33 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
Better yet...how do you spend your Sabbaths?
Y'all treat it like a buffet bar, taking some laws that seem right to you, but ignoring the rest. It's all or nothing, Bubba's.
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05-01-2017, 05:35 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
When you pick and choose the laws that seem right to you and ignore other laws, it makes you offenders just like the sinners you condemn.
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05-01-2017, 05:37 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Just because I don't eat ham, or anything else the Law of Moses commands, it don't mean I love God or others.
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You eating pork was an abomination to you Leviticus 11:7, but you honey hugging your boyfriend is an abomination to God Leviticus 18:22 . Big difference. One makes you sick, and the other makes God sick.
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05-01-2017, 05:39 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
Homosexuality is based on lust, exploitation, and can harm the body. It is an aberration, and accompanies psychosis. So, it is sin.
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05-01-2017, 05:39 PM
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Re: More on Skirts
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When you pick and choose the laws that seem right to you and ignore other laws, it makes you offenders just like the sinners you condemn.
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OK, which ones can we pick and choose?
Which one is cool, which one can be done without having an issue with Jesus?
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMINATION.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are
ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God.
Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an ABOMINATION unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 11:20
They that are of a froward heart are ABOMINATION to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.
Proverbs 12:22
Lying lips are ABOMINATION to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
Proverbs 15:26
The thoughts of the wicked are an ABOMINATION to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
Proverbs 15:8
The sacrifice of the wicked is an ABOMINATION to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
Proverbs 16:5
Every one that is proud in heart is an ABOMINATION to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are ABOMINATION to the LORD.
Proverbs 20:10
Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike ABOMINATION to the LORD.
Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be ABOMINATION.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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