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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Neither were there Eskimos in Judea. There wasn't Chinese in Samaria, and the Lamanite American Indians didn't have a hat to place their peep stones.
I have already established the trousers in Daniel 3:21. You claim they are Babylonish garments. But the money, the clothes, and spoil from these groups were verboten Joshua 7:21. You brought up that Deuteronomy 22:5 was a religious prohibition and that God sees the abomination only in crossdressing for religious practices. Which would logically mean that everyone can cross dress if the crossdressing was secular. You also brought up that Deuteronomy 22:5 was merely concerning "intent" that if the male or female's intent was homosexual then GOD sees it as detestable and abominable. Again, logically this would then mean everyone could cross dress if the crossdressing was done by heterosexuals. But, you aren't honest, because throughout this whole discussion you have been throwing things together to win an argument. You have Googled your way through this and used everything to try to refute the verse. Pilny posted the languages which were used, and you found nothing on Google search to refute my findings on the language, or Pilny's findings the the language.
What could of only been better is to have had you in a public debate concerning this issue. Where you would of had no access to internet searches. Where you would of been exposed as an intellectual coward, not an idiot, but a coward. You aren't an idiot, because idiots can be excused for their idiocy. You are dishonest, because you were playing learn as you go. anyone who would honestly go through our discussion could see your sorry evolution of discovery as you rummaged through Google. In person face to face this would of been quite different. Because you would of exhausted your supply of material within 25 minutes of the discussion. You would of been embarrassed because everyone would of been looking to see if you had anything, and as prideful as you are? You would of seethed on the inside but kept the false Christian smiling on the outside.
Deuteronomy 22:5 is about apparel, style, "attire" is the English word used. For hundreds of years it has been "pants" on "Christian" men and dresses katastole on "Christain" women.
The whole of Christendom understood this. Yet, you live in a world where reality is dictated by the ever changing culture around you. You have no defense for young people wanting gender neutral locker rooms, bathrooms, or gender neutral society. You have no defense and instead of having a strong argument you have whatever you can grasp from Google. Sorry, you lose.  |
You have one Scripture with a meaning that is debated by scholars.
You have the example of the high priest being commanded to wear breeches as part of his inner garment.
You have a second example of three captives who were not even in Israel, but who were in Babylon, under assimilation. They even had Babylonian names. And I assure you, Babylonian attire.
Both of your examples are lifted out of context, separated by a thousand years, and you believe these verses are enough to prove men wore Levis in ancient Israel.
That my friend is not only shoddy evidence and lazy scholarship, it is dishonest. I challenge the reader to look up standard attire of the average man and woman in ancient Israel. They will find no evidence for pants becoming common attire in Judea until after the fall of Rome (which classified cultures wearing pants as barbarian).
As for all you insults, I forgive you. The truth is, you have an entire religious practice based on so many legalistic errors, you've been conformed into the image of those errors...and not Christ Himself. So, one should expect such things when engaged in conversation with such people. I pray that you find the peace that surpasses all understanding and the grace that leads to truth. Not just a marginal little doctrinal interpretation supported by the circular logic of legalists, but Truth. When you do, I have no doubt that you'll see the man that you are now in a far different light.
God bless and keep you and yours.
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