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Originally Posted by Esaias

This is a misrepresentation and you know that.

No, it's not. You insinuated I was wrong for calling sin "sin." You had no words for how wrong I was to name sin "sin."

Originally Posted by Esaias

Another misrepresentation. You are being legalistic in your demand for every Christian to be perfect in obedience to ALL commands (including those not yet known) at the moment of initial conversion, with no allowance for growth in knowledge and obedience.

Speaking of misrepresentation, you're the king here.

I never stated "ever Christian to be perfect in obedience to all commands ... at the moment of initial conversation ..

I simply stated that a sinner knows what sin is, why should we pretend Christians are dumb and need time to learn what sin is/isn't? I also stated that people are not perfect, but that people with unrepentant sin would not be saved. That's simply the Bible.

Originally Posted by Esaias

But then again, you appear to believe that once a person is born again there is nothing left to improve on in their life

Please post the quote where I allegedly said this. Right, I didn't post anything of the sort. Of course people grow in Christ, that doesn't mean we coddle and excuse sin! Sin is sin, and nowhere in the Bible does it give separate definitions for newborn Christians vs mature Christians.