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06-09-2007, 04:55 PM
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...And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. ... I Corinthians 14:32.
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06-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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I predict they will not call you next year too.
Mark it down. 
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06-09-2007, 05:21 PM
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In reading this thread, it seems to me there needs to be a distinction made between those that are used in the "Prophetic", and those that hold the office of "Prophet". I personally believe the voice of the Prophets have been silent for quite a few years. I believe that this is a God thing. But when they come on the scene, it will be to call a people out of their sin and slumber. There is no difference between the Old Testament Prophet, and the New Testament Prophet.
Not everyone that prophesies is a Prophet. But I do not believe there is room for error to come out of the mouth of the true God called Prophet. At the point error is spoken, he ceases to be Gods mouthpiece.
Just MHO
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06-09-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
In reading this thread, it seems to me there needs to be a distinction made between those that are used in the "Prophetic", and those that hold the office of "Prophet". I personally believe the voice of the Prophets have been silent for quite a few years. I believe that this is a God thing. But when they come on the scene, it will be to call a people out of their sin and slumber. There is no difference between the Old Testament Prophet, and the New Testament Prophet.
Not everyone that prophesies is a Prophet. But I do not believe there is room for error to come out of the mouth of the true God called Prophet. At the point error is spoken, he ceases to be Gods mouthpiece.
Just MHO
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What is the definition of a prophet?
Act 11:27 And in these days prophets from Jerusalem came to Antioch.
Act 11:28 And one of them named Agabus stood up and signified by the Spirit that there should be great famine over the world (which also happened in the days of Claudius Caesar).
Act 13:1 And in Antioch some among the existing church were prophets and teachers. (such as Barnabas, and Simeon who was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, the foster-brother of Herod the tetrarch) and Saul.
Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, So, then, separate Barnabas and Saul to Me for the work to which I have called them.
Act 13:3 Then having fasted and prayed and laid hands on them, they let them go.
Act 15:32 And Judas and Silas, also being prophets themselves, exhorted the brothers with many words and confirmed them.
Act 21:8 And the next day those around him going out, Paul came to Caesarea. And entering the house of Philip the evangelist, he being of the seven, we stayed with him.
Act 21:9 And there were four virgin daughters to this one, who prophesied.
Act 21:10 And as we stayed more days, a certain prophet from Judea named Agabus came down.
Act 21:11 And coming to us, and taking Paul's belt, and binding his hands and feet, he said, The Holy Spirit says these things: So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man whose belt this is, and will deliver him into the hands of the nations.
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06-09-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Thad
I agree. Men are subject to human Error of All sorts.
we don't throw a Pastor away when he makes an honest mistake
that can be corrected
although, when you say "GOD SAID IT" people really take that for face value. the Prophets need to be careful how they word things
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It is my understanding that this side of our completion at the rapture, all our knowledge, prophesy, etc. is "in part" or "incomplete" subject to our human limitations.
8-10 Love never dies. Inspired speech will be over some day; praying in tongues will end; understanding will reach its limit. We know only a portion of the truth, and what we say about God is always incomplete. But when the Complete arrives, our incompletes will be canceled.
11 When I was an infant at my mother's breast, I gurgled and cooed like any infant. When I grew up, I left those infant ways for good.
12 We don't yet see things clearly. We're squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won't be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We'll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us!
13 But for right now, until that completeness, we have three things to do to lead us toward that consummation: Trust steadily in God, hope unswervingly, love extravagantly. And the best of the three is love.
1 Cor 13:8-13 from The Message
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06-09-2007, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
In reading this thread, it seems to me there needs to be a distinction made between those that are used in the "Prophetic", and those that hold the office of "Prophet".
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Not everyone that prophesies is a Prophet.
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Just MHO
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In his instructions to the Assembly at Corinth, the Apostle Paul said that only two or three prophets were to speak but that all can prophesy ( 1 Cor 14:29-33)
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06-09-2007, 09:08 PM
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Psalms 132:1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
In reading this thread, it seems to me there needs to be a distinction made between those that are used in the "Prophetic", and those that hold the office of "Prophet". I personally believe the voice of the Prophets have been silent for quite a few years. I believe that this is a God thing. But when they come on the scene, it will be to call a people out of their sin and slumber. There is no difference between the Old Testament Prophet, and the New Testament Prophet.
Not everyone that prophesies is a Prophet. But I do not believe there is room for error to come out of the mouth of the true God called Prophet. At the point error is spoken, he ceases to be Gods mouthpiece.
Just MHO
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Bro. Matt
Would this lead to the idea that at certain times the five fold ministry would be incomplete?
J/W
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06-09-2007, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown
I did not advertise a School of Prophets Conference, so I am not the focus of this thread. You are just trying to project the focus off of the fact that none of the men listed are really prophets. Not saying they are not good men, but they are not prophets. I would say it is a case of false advertisement.
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Out of curiosity who do you think are prophets?
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06-09-2007, 09:09 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
.. and they didn't give me a call... oloroid
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I didn't get a call either,
but then, I don't consider myself a prophet,
just an elder (anciano in Spanish).
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06-09-2007, 09:12 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
Bro. Matt
Would this lead to the idea that at certain times the five fold ministry would be incomplete?
J/W
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Could be incomplete at times.
If we believe in an early rain (first century or so), sporadic showers at times (Holy Ghost outpourings here and there through the centuries) and then the latter rain (late 1800's until rapture) there could be times when some gifts and offices were not active.
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