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Originally Posted by good samaritan
I agree in someways, but also know that there is a discipling process. Jesus disciples were chosen from imperfect pasts. While they walked with God they displayed their sinful nature on multiple occasions. Even after Pentecost you read of squabbles. Paul withstood Peter to his face because he was to be blamed and so forth. I don't think you hammer a babe on milk for stumbling a little bit, but as you said there will be a character change after the Spirit of God enters in.
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Zacharias and Elizabeth displayed their sinful nature on multiple occasions? I must of missed that. We shouldn't be spiritually bipolar. Paul withstood Peter for a doctrinal issue. But we are told of Peter's blame, we are told when others Demas, Alexander the coppersmith, and Hymenaeus messed up. Yet, Paul was steady as she goes. He also points out others like Timothy who was steady as she goes. People have all kinds of situations, and we stand in a pulpit telling them that Jesus can make them free. But then when they are blowing out a tire we show them some small print? Oh, well, it s like this...you are going to have inward struggles forever? No, who the son sets free is free INDEED!
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I am not even talking about sins such as adultery, drunkenness, brawling, carousing, etc.... God does not share room and board with sin.
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GS, where is any sin higher or lower than the other? the whole venial sin and mortal sin issue was to make money. All sin is sin, and if a guy has inner struggle with looking at the wrong thing, even if he never acts out on it. He or she has monstrous issues. Same thing with lying, all liars have their part in a lake of fire. End of conversation. All liars mean any kind of lie. Not just untruths, because an untruth may not be a lie. A lie is done with intent to misrepresent and perpetuate. A brother could be wrong on an issue and giving false information because he doesn't know it is false. He isn't lying.
God doesn't share room with practitioners of sin, people who don't know any better are ignorant and need some Holy Ghost guidance, preaching, teaching, and a good hot bowl of gumbo wouldn't hurt either.
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If we love Him we will keep his commandments. Someone who is born again is not going to go home and fornicate afterward, not and remain born again. Abraham was called out of from his pagan family in search of another kingdom who's builder and maker is God. If you get the real deal you will do the same.
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Excellent!
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Homosexual Christian is an oxymoron. you can't be homosexual and a Christian. There is a matter of the heart involved in all this. If the heart is pure (perfect) you are not going to want sin. If you no longer want sin, guess what? You are not going to sin.
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