Apostoic worship??

[consapente89]

I believe in demonstrative worship. Running the aisles, dancing, jumping, shouting, rolling on the floor...everything that has been predominate in Apostolic circles.


HOWEVER!

Many in Pentecostal circles have made an idol out of music and have become "worshippers of the beat" rather than worshippers of God. In my humble opinion, we should be spending more time on our faces in deep travailing prayer than we should blasting loud music through the sanctuary. I would love to see a shift in Pentecost where prayer and preaching take the front seat and music takes a back seat. I believe this is the Apostolic pattern.

[JoeBandy]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Apostolics don't do away with OT worship, they fulfill it.

Still no scriptural reference to anything resembling the normal wildness of typical Sunday night at the local UPC.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Apostolics don't do away with OT worship, they fulfill it.

Amen

[JoeBandy]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I believe in demonstrative worship. Running the aisles, dancing, jumping, shouting, rolling on the floor...everything that has been predominate in Apostolic circles.


HOWEVER!

Many in Pentecostal circles have made an idol out of music and have become "worshippers of the beat" rather than worshippers of God. In my humble opinion, we should be spending more time on our faces in deep travailing prayer than we should blasting loud music through the sanctuary. I would love to see a shift in Pentecost where prayer and preaching take the front seat and music takes a back seat. I believe this is the Apostolic pattern.

You see I believe the version of demonstrative worship you refer to is what Col 2:23 is about. Can you give me one instance of this kind of praise n the NT?

[consapente89]

I've not been around the UPC in years....is pre-service prayer still emphasized??

[Amanah]

I believe in hitting the prayer room with the travailing prayer of faith as consapente said, and then entering his gates with worship and praise. It's tried and proven.

[houston]

There is a young man who used to post here by the name of Peyton Gurley. He attended one of the UPCI bible colleges. One time he had posted all of the Hebrew words in the OT that have to do with worship, dance, praise, etc. and their meanings. One of the words (if I recall) means to twirl about as if under the control of a force. Don't quote me.

I tried looking for it here and nothing came up. Then I remembered that it may have been posted on the spin off forum (LOL), synadelfos.

I searched using google and this is the only thing remotely close to what he posted.

http://www.chaimbentorah.com/2015/05...#1493;ל/

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I've not been around the UPC in years....is pre-service prayer still emphasized??

I can't speak for the UPC, but I always have pre service prayer.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I watched a few clips from NAYC17 and noticed several tweets relating to the crowds actions as true Apostolic worship. I totally disagree. Although I am and was raised UPC I never have believed in the typical run, dance, swing from the ceiling fan type worship. Is there a scripture reference in the NT that shows the apostles doing this type worship? I have a few scriptures I will post later that I believe is against this type.

Do you go face down and still as a corpse every Sunday?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

You see I believe the version of demonstrative worship you refer to is what Col 2:23 is about. Can you give me one instance of this kind of praise n the NT?

In Colossians 2:20-23, Paul shows that asceticism is how not to become godly. The false teachers in Colossae had a system of rules which they imposed on their followers. They said, “If you keep these rules, you will have victory over fleshly desires.” They took some of the Old Testament regulations concerning ceremonial cleanliness and diet and added to them, much as the Pharisees had done. Paul admits (Col. 2:23) that these rules had “the appearance of wisdom,” but, he adds, they “are of no value against fleshly indulgence.” Rather, Paul argues that …

Godliness is not achieved through asceticism but through our identification with Christ.
https://bible.org/seriespage/lesson-...ossians-220-23