More On Beards

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Dude you know you'd come home to a empty house after he hocked all your stuff to buy blow.

Yep, he grew up to be like Harry and Marv....only he wasn't funny.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Yep, he grew up to be like Harry and Marv....only he wasn't funny.

Yeah...kid destroyed by fame.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Yeah...kid destroyed by fame.

MKUltra Illuminati Monarch Hollywood programmed mind control slave.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

MKUltra Illuminati Monarch Hollywood programmed mind control slave.

[n david]

Back to the OP. My wife and I have been attending a UPC church again and yesterday the Pastor spoke with me for a few minutes before service. It was an introductory conversation. He mentioned that there were opportunities to be used in the ministry there, but there was one request. He started by saying, "There is no scripture against it, and I don't believe it will send anyone to hell."

I knew where he was going, kind of chuckled, rubbed my beard and said, "So you're asking me to shave?" He laughed and said, "Again, I haven't read any scriptures against it, I don't believe you're wrong for it, but if you want to be in leadership here, I would prefer you to be clean shaven."

I've had ministers go on about beards equaling rebellion or beards coming from the 60s hippie movement. I appreciated how up front and honest he was about it. No bible against it, not going to hell, just a preference for church leadership.

I worked with a large corporation who did not allow facial hair for men (not sure about a bearded lady...), and I followed their dress code without complaint. My current employer requires a certain dress code which I follow as well.

I have no problem shaving my beard. It's mostly laziness as to why I keep it. I just hate shaving all the time. Plus, and I understand this is vanity, but I have a bald head and the short beard was the only gray which showed aging. I already look young for my age, so the beard helped me look older, more distinguished.

[Scott Pitta]

If we say the Bible is the sole rule of faith, we cannot preach against beards.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Back to the OP. My wife and I have been attending a UPC church again and yesterday the Pastor spoke with me for a few minutes before service. It was an introductory conversation. He mentioned that there were opportunities to be used in the ministry there, but there was one request. He started by saying, "There is no scripture against it, and I don't believe it will send anyone to hell."

I knew where he was going, kind of chuckled, rubbed my beard and said, "So you're asking me to shave?" He laughed and said, "Again, I haven't read any scriptures against it, I don't believe you're wrong for it, but if you want to be in leadership here, I would prefer you to be clean shaven."

I've had ministers go on about beards equaling rebellion or beards coming from the 60s hippie movement. I appreciated how up front and honest he was about it. No bible against it, not going to hell, just a preference for church leadership.

I worked with a large corporation who did not allow facial hair for men (not sure about a bearded lady...), and I followed their dress code without complaint. My current employer requires a certain dress code which I follow as well.

I have no problem shaving my beard. It's mostly laziness as to why I keep it. I just hate shaving all the time. Plus, and I understand this is vanity, but I have a bald head and the short beard was the only gray which showed aging. I already look young for my age, so the beard helped me look older, more distinguished.

So he admits he has an unbiblical requirement for ministry.

[Aquila]

A man once told me that I should consider shaving my beard to be used in his church. I told him I'm a vet, and that I feel I earned the right to wear a beard. Besides, I told him, I think clean shaven men look gay. Lol. He just smiled and stared at me, with his clean shaven face.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

If we say the Bible is the sole rule of faith, we cannot preach against beards.

For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

If we say the Bible is the sole rule of faith, we cannot preach against beards.

He doesn't preach against beards. There are a few men there who have facial hair - goatee, beard. Again, not a heaven/hell issue, just a preference for leadership position.

Originally Posted by Aquila

So he admits he has an unbiblical requirement for ministry.

You may view it this way, I do not. Most churches, even non-holiness churches, have requirements for ministry.

Again, I have no issue with his request. I have followed leadership requirements in the past, and have submitted to dress codes for employers all my working life. If I'm willing to do that for secular employers, I should be even more willing to do it in ministry.