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Old 06-11-2007, 12:37 AM
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"He...is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the WHOLE WORLD" 1Jn. 2.2


All mankind recieves legal forgiveness in Christ for their inherited sin in Adam. Yet, in relational forgiveness, forgiveness depends on each person's individual responses to God's truth revealed in each heart.
CJ, I really don't understand how you're getting the universal call "to" salvation with a doctrine of everyone being saved regardless of condition.

Mat 22:9

"Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage."


Mar 16:15

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to EVERY CREATURE."


The apostles were told to preach the Gospel to every creature, but when you get to the ver next verse...

Mar 16:16

"He that BELIEVETH and is baptized shall be SAVED; but he that believeth not shall be damned."


CJ, only baptized believers are saved those who are not believers are damned.

Mat 22:14

"For MANY are called, but FEW are chosen."


MANY are called because the Gospel is preached to EVERY creature, but still he that BELIEVETH and IS BAPTIZED are the ones who will make heaven their home. Those who BELIEVETH NOT will spllt hell wide open.

Rom 10:12-17

"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM. For WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."


CJ, the scriptures are certainly showing the reader that one must be a seeker who comes to believe that Jesus is Lord and is willing to repent after they hear the preached word. The salvation is just for those who call on the name of the Lord. The "ALL" and the "WHOSOEVER" are those who believe and call on Jesus name in water baptism. Anything else will miss glory.

Faith still comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God.

Isa 45:22-25

"Look unto ME, and BE YE SAVED, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the WORD IS GONE OUT OF MY MOUTH in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and ALL that are incensed against him shall be ASHAMED. In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory."


The "ALL" Israel who would be SAVED are those who would "look toward GOD"
Those who would be "INCENSED" against GOD, would be "ASHAMED."

CJ the scripture qualifies itself by letting us know who the "all" and "everyone" are. All will be saved, but just the "all" who believe and are baptized and in filled with the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues.

Isa 55:1

"Ho, every one that THIRSTETH, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price."


Only those who "THIRSTETH" will be saved.

Joh 7:37-38

"In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If ANY MAN THIRST, let him come unto me, and drink. He that BELIEVETH ON ME, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."


Every man who is thirsty and who believes as the scriptures speak only those are the "many" who will miss hell.

Rev 22:17

"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."


The call is offered to "all" men, but it will be taken only by those who hear the call and are thirsty.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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