Church Government (a collective body)

[aegsm76]

I had a pastor of a large apostolic church offer me a full-time ministry position. I told him that he could not afford me. He said that his policy was to pay a salary that matched what I was making on my job.
His reasoning was if I was worth that much on my job, I was worth that much to the church. He said that was his policy for all staff members.
That was in 2003 and that church has more than tripled since then, not including the 7 or 8 daughter works.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I believe this is one area where Apostolic churches have a blind spot.
I have heard many complain about losing their youth, but hardly any churches want to pay a part-time or full-time youth minister.
Like you, nd, I have been worship leader and youth pastor, but have never been paid.
I am not complaining as I never felt I missed anything by not being paid, but I still wish we had paid youth ministers.

Youth aren't lost by lack of paid youth ministers. They are lost in the home before the church ever realizes any thing's wrong.

Still can't find any of this corporatism in the Bible, though.

[Captain]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

Hmm, vague but I’ll go out on a limb and assume you’re attempting to make a case for completely open books? We shouldn’t sue or otherwise take a brother to court since obviously, a Holy Ghost filled church should have at least one person wise enough to help mediate the matter. And this means also that visitors, new converts and the bitter backslider all need to see the church’s finances? Your post only highlights the lack of Bible for your position, if I assumed your intentions correctly, it was pretty vague.

[n david]

I don't believe books must be open for visitors, but they should be open to the members of an assembly.

[returnman]

Originally Posted by n david

I don't believe books must be open for visitors, but they should be open to the members of an assembly.

You'd think so. Especially at the annual business meeting. 100%, not some silly work around not to reveal the tithe. If the bible was that explicit about the tithe going to the 21st century westernized pastor then what's the big secret?

[JoeBandy]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I had a pastor of a large apostolic church offer me a full-time ministry position. I told him that he could not afford me. He said that his policy was to pay a salary that matched what I was making on my job.
His reasoning was if I was worth that much on my job, I was worth that much to the church. He said that was his policy for all staff members.
That was in 2003 and that church has more than tripled since then, not including the 7 or 8 daughter works.

What is considered a LARGE apostolic church? 100? 1000?

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

What is considered a LARGE apostolic church? 100? 1000?

i would say average is about 150-200.
Large would be 500+, at least IMO.