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Old 08-15-2017, 11:31 PM
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Re: More On Beards

I am a person who avoids debates, but I am sick and tired of this idiotic doctrine that having beards is evil.

I do not have a beard, so I got nothing to gain, but I challenge any preacher to debate me on this issue using the Bible.

Yes I know it is kind of silly for me who does not wear a beard to debate in favor of the beard, but I am simply fed up with such idiocy.

I will prove from scriptures that there is absolutely nothing wrong with men wearing beards, come on, I am ready to take any preacher on this subject.

It is time to put a stop to such foolish nonsense, and I am willing to have a public debate on this subject. any takers?
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Old 08-16-2017, 04:04 AM
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I am a person who avoids debates, but I am sick and tired of this idiotic doctrine that having beards is evil.

I do not have a beard, so I got nothing to gain, but I challenge any preacher to debate me on this issue using the Bible.

Yes I know it is kind of silly for me who does not wear a beard to debate in favor of the beard, but I am simply fed up with such idiocy.

I will prove from scriptures that there is absolutely nothing wrong with men wearing beards, come on, I am ready to take any preacher on this subject.

It is time to put a stop to such foolish nonsense, and I am willing to have a public debate on this subject. any takers?
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:39 AM
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Re: More On Beards

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I am a person who avoids debates, but I am sick and tired of this idiotic doctrine that having beards is evil.

I do not have a beard, so I got nothing to gain, but I challenge any preacher to debate me on this issue using the Bible.

Yes I know it is kind of silly for me who does not wear a beard to debate in favor of the beard, but I am simply fed up with such idiocy.

I will prove from scriptures that there is absolutely nothing wrong with men wearing beards, come on, I am ready to take any preacher on this subject.

It is time to put a stop to such foolish nonsense, and I am willing to have a public debate on this subject. any takers?
this is easily solved, all men should just grow a beard, have a beard strike, withhold tithes and offerings till the beard ban is lifted. Women could care a less to be honest, stubbles are irritating.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:11 AM
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My beard went down to my belt. When I had my Fumanchu it was always soaked when I was eating and drinking. Clean shaven is good choice for ME. FZ needs to grow a beard
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:14 AM
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My beard went down to my belt. When I had my Fumanchu it was always soaked when I was eating and drinking. Clean shaven is good choice for ME. FZ needs to grow a beard
I see your point, I'm thinking your wife is thankful your beard is gone.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:57 AM
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this is easily solved, all men should just grow a beard, have a beard strike, withhold tithes and offerings till the beard ban is lifted. Women could care a less to be honest, stubbles are irritating.
My love likes my beard. When I shaved it last, she was disappointed and made me promise to grow it out again. But, that's her preference I guess.

Honestly it doesn't matter if a man wears a beard or not. The issue I have is that there is no biblical law for or against it. Yet we often behave as though there is. There isn't a biblical mandate on the issue. So, to prohibit beards or to require beards is going well above and beyond what is found in Scripture. It's sad that our founders in this movement were so fixated on such trivial matters. We waist more energy and time debating over these non-issues than we should, because of them. Now, I say this with much hesitation... our founders were spiritual giants in some things... and truly spiritually immature babes in others. God gave a great and awesome revelation to a humble and simple people. We shouldn't judge and condemn them in areas where their spiritual immaturity might show. We would have done the same thing. And I'm sure that we are doing the same thing in other areas today. What we should do is honor them by growing beyond the limitations they had, and striving to come into the fullness of maturity in Christ.

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Old 08-16-2017, 07:10 AM
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I thought this was funny. Some of you bearded men who are military movie nuts might enjoy this:



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Old 08-16-2017, 08:28 AM
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:14 AM
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Re: More On Beards

Lets not lose sight of the real issue among Apostolic Churches. The great majority (from what I understand) still teach that at worst a beard is a sin and at best they are somewhat shameful even to the point you cannot "minister on the platform" if you have one.

This along with the doctrine that if a woman trims her hair (even if it is still long) cannot enter Heaven have turned away multitudes of sincere Jesus loving people from the faith.

And yet many still think we should "honor" such Preachers. We will honor them when they humble themselves and admit they have done wrong and move on and stop hindering Gods work.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:15 AM
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Re: More On Beards

I was having this discussion with my wife last night, (not specifically beards, but more along the lines of church traditions that we hold as biblical absolutes). The problem isn't the beards, the problem is with the mindset that says we can't change!

I was talking about how church folks in general and apostolics especially are against changing anything. Changing the lights, changing the pulpit (gasp), trading pews for chairs (liberals!) is usually met with cries of compromise and rhetoric about holding on to the "old paths".

She immediately accused me of compromise on things like dress standards etc. To that point in the conversation, I hadn't brought up dress standards at all. And that is the problem. Pennycostals hear the word change, and they immediately correlate it with "letting down standards" or compromising the message.

I told her, I'm not advocating changing the message. I'm saying we should look at changing the methods. Paul said, I have become all things to all people in order to try and save some!

I don't know what you guys are seeing, but in my local church we are LOSING this generation. I believe the biggest problem is that in rejecting any change within the conservative apostolic movement, we are not becoming all things to all people. In rejecting social media, we are rejecting the BIGGEST medium teenagers use today. In rejecting any change in service structure, we are telling the next generation they have to worship just like grandpa did. The truth is, this generation doesn't do ANYTHING like grandpa did anymore.
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