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09-19-2017, 08:00 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Originally Posted by Sean
Of course some of the books had an intended audience.
That is in every epistle also.
John and Mark(especially John) had a targeted audience of ALL readers....
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
That is the discussion here.
Now, why are you including yourself in Theophilus'/all epistles' mail as applicable to your life?
Right, because your ancient brethren in the faith consider their mail, your mail.
The N.T. was never intended,( as preterists have segregated it), to be a commentary of the "former church's" documentary of events, but a continuation of experience, doctrinal and prophetical events. 
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Sean, maybe your disagreement with what is being said about John is due to a comprehension problem on your part?
To test this, please answer the following in your own words:
What is meant by "the Bible is not written TO us"?
What is meant by "the Bible is written FOR us"?
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
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09-19-2017, 08:02 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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10.) The intended audience who first read them lived in the 1st century
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Did the Apostles expect these letters to be read by only 1st century believers, and NEVER archived/copied for future believers?
Do you write your works on the internet, expecting to have it taken off and ceased to be read after you die?
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09-19-2017, 08:09 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Sean, maybe your disagreement with what is being said about John is due to a comprehension problem on your part?
To test this, please answer the following in your own words:
What is meant by "the Bible is not written TO us"?
What is meant by "the Bible is written FOR us"?
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No, you are wrong about John.
You have made "ye" into "they".
My wife is totally neutral and cares less about our arguments.(thinks we are crazy for arguing...LOL)
I wanted to see at first glance, as an experiment, who she thought the last verse in John was intended for.
She read it.
I asked her, "who is "ye" talking to?".
She said, "me".
Now, here is what you do....
Do a random poll of non doctrinal believers and come back with your results.
You will find that "ye" is everyone reading it. It is an open ended scripture.
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09-19-2017, 08:16 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Originally Posted by houston
What does that even mean?
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It means that they will tell you that not a word to the 7 churches are applicable to you, houston.
If you admit yourself into a preterist reeducation camp, you will see this clearly.
What they do is ask such as..."who was Jezebel"? Are you in "Smyrna"? etc.
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09-19-2017, 08:19 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Originally Posted by Sean
No, you are wrong about John.
You have made "ye" into "they".
My wife is totally neutral and cares less about our arguments.(thinks we are crazy for arguing...LOL)
I wanted to see at first glance, as an experiment, who she thought the last verse in John was intended for.
She read it.
I asked her, "who is "ye" talking to?".
She said, "me".
Now, here is what you do....
Do a random poll of non doctrinal believers and come back with your results.
You will find that "ye" is everyone reading it. It is an open ended scripture. 
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The above is even more evidence for why I said the problem here is you have a reading comprehension problem.
This is what I asked you:
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Sean, maybe your disagreement with what is being said about John is due to a comprehension problem on your part?
To test this, please answer the following in your own words:
What is meant by "the Bible is not written TO us"?
What is meant by "the Bible is written FOR us"?
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Your above response does not answer that...not even a little bit.
Sean, reread what I asked--real slowly. Then try--really hard--to answer what is asked there.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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09-19-2017, 08:20 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
When finished, the book of Rev. which you were originally included into, is segregated from you and documented for you.
They completely ignore words as this....
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
They think that is the 7 geographical churches only.
But Jesus meant ALL ears and ALL churches.
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09-19-2017, 08:22 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
The above is even more evidence for why I said the problem here is you have a reading comprehension problem.
This is what I asked you:
Your above response does not answer that...not even a little bit.
Sean, reread what I asked--real slowly. Then try--really hard--to answer what is asked there.
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Okay, I see you will not do a poll.
Now do you want the verse that says it is for them and us?
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09-19-2017, 08:25 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Originally Posted by Sean
37 And what I say unto you(them) I say unto all(me), Watch.
Exactly.
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Behold, the verse.
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09-19-2017, 08:26 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
Exclude yourself from "all", my preterist brother.
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09-19-2017, 08:28 AM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Okay, I see you will not do a poll.
Now do you want the verse that says it is for them and us?
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Sean, respectfully (which is more than you do for others), I asked you this first:
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Sean, maybe your disagreement with what is being said about John is due to a comprehension problem on your part?
To test this, please answer the following in your own words:
What is meant by "the Bible is not written TO us"?
What is meant by "the Bible is written FOR us"?
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Are you really unable to answer these two simple questions?
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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