Rome is Babylon

[Evang.Benincasa]

That's what I believed when I was Historic (not historicist) Post trib.

Easias were you at the Prophecy conference in Georgia with Brothers Kirkland, Brigmond, Dalton, and myself?

[Evang.Benincasa]

[Evang.Benincasa]

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[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

BAM! BINGO!

I think that tells us who Babylon in Revelation is. Israel's orthodox Jews stand on the BABYLONIAN Talmud to this day!

BUt consider this:

Why can't they be the daughters of the single kingdom ISRAEL before they split?

But here's a thought....
(I posted this elsewhere this morning on the forum)

Some claim Jerusalem is the whore as well as Rome in Revelation, and somehow became one.

Jerusalem is clearly the city that is called Sodom and Egypt. And Rome is said to be Babylon.

Bit think of the common denominator in Sodom, Egypt and Babylon. God's People had to LEAVE ALL THREE. If this is Jerusalem who is all three, then the picture shows God's people BECOMING THAT FROM WHICH THEY ONCE HAD TO FLEE! And is that not exactly the picture?

[Sean]

Nice preterist archive.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

BAM! BINGO!

I think that tells us who Babylon in Revelation is. Israel's orthodox Jews stand on the BABYLONIAN Talmud to this day!

BUt consider this:

Why can't they be the daughters of the single kingdom ISRAEL before they split?

But here's a thought....
(I posted this elsewhere this morning on the forum)

Some claim Jerusalem is the whore as well as Rome in Revelation, and somehow became one.

Jerusalem is clearly the city that is called Sodom and Egypt. And Rome is said to be Babylon.

Bit think of the common denominator in Sodom, Egypt and Babylon. God's People had to LEAVE ALL THREE. If this is Jerusalem who is all three, then the picture shows God's people BECOMING THAT FROM WHICH THEY ONCE HAD TO FLEE! And is that not exactly the picture?

1 Peter 5:13 has the Apostle Peter sending greetings from his location. Which was Jerusalem. Peter calls the Church there the church in Babylon. Peter was NEVER in Rome. We have not one shred of evidence for Peter being in Rome. Who is buried in the Basilica? They also have John the Baptists head in two different places, one is his head when he was older, and the other when he was younger.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Sean

Nice preterist archive.

Dear Brother Sean, please don't post one line attacks in this thread. I am enjoying and learning from the comments of Elders Benincasa, Blume, and Esaias.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

One city is called Sodom and Egypt, and the other city is called Babylon. But somehow these folks try to make them the same city.... Preterists will not allow themselves to see these two cities. Redefinitions allow the two cities to meld into one.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified....

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.




Now for Babylon.....


21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee


God completely obliterated Jerusalem after it's inhabitants remaining, gave glory to Him?


Nope.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Dear Brother Sean, please don't post one line attacks in this thread. I am enjoying and learning from the comments of Elders Benincasa, Blume, and Esaias.

Okay Amanah. I will let you preterists enjoy yourselves the rest of the way unopposed.

[houston]

Thank you