Kneel, or you're racist!

[Aquila]

What we can't do is...

Claim that all cops are bad.
Claim that excessive use of force, including deadly force, is only against minorities (we're all in danger here).
Ignore that there are many bad cops.
Ignore that department policies, politics, and the justice system often works in the favor of bad cops.
Ignore that something should be done.
Ignore that any one of us could find ourselves staring down the barrel of trigger happy cop's gun for one false move or misspoken word over some minor infraction.

We're Americans. They work FOR us. They aren't a standing army to police and punish us. Somewhere along the way they've been turned into a standing army to police and keep the American people walking the line, a line that gets narrower and narrower with every new law and regulation that chips away at personal liberty.

Sadly, I'm more worried when being pulled over by a cop on a bad side of town than I am changing a tire on the bad side of town.

So, let's all remember to keep waving our flags and singing "God Bless America"... but above all, remember, no sudden moves... or you could easily wind up dead.

[Aquila]

Anyone here ever been tailed by a cop who followed you for an unbelievable amount of time until you messed up and gave him a reason to pull you over?

Anyone here ever been tailed by a cop who followed you for an unbelievable amount of time until he gave up because you didn't make a mistake that would give him a reason to pull you over?

Like one cop said during an interview, with the way the laws are written, it's nearly impossible to drive your car across town without giving a cop a reason to pull you over.

My friends, that's by design. They need a legal reason to act. And there are thousands of little laws that make it nearly impossible to avoid giving a cop a reason to stop you. And if you happen to do well jumping all those hoops, your effort to do so will give them just cause because now you're behaving in "suspicious" manner. I wouldn't be surprised if one day there's a law passed making it illegal to lead off with one's left foot while at the cross-walk. And guess what... someone would eventually be stopped over it, words exchanged, intentions misunderstood, and people blown away over it.

It's not a racial thing. But it's real. And we're all in the same boat. A trigger happy cop will blow you away over one false move just as quickly as other cops have blown away other people for reaching for their wallets after being asked for a license.

[Aquila]

True story:

A man was doing yard work, so he wasn't looking his Sunday best. His kids were at grandma's, who lives about 8 houses down the street. She called him and told them that they were ready to come home. He starts walking down the street to her house and a little over half-way, out of nowhere he hears, "WOOP! WOOP!", and a cop pulls up next to him and asks him what he's doing and where he's going. He states that he is walking down to his mother-in-law's house to pick up his kids. The cop asks if he has his license or ID. He doesn't have it on him because he was doing yard work and his wallet was on the table on the foyer of his house. The cop asks him his name and where he lives and begins running his name. At that time, his kids see him and he hears "Daddy! Daddy!", as they run up to greet him. The officer looks "disappointed" as he "click-ity-clack-ities" on the computer in his car and sarcastically says, "Well, I guess it's your lucky day.", and drives off.

Ummm... what gives??? You're not allowed to walk down the street of your own neighborhood to pick up your kids anymore?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Guy was speeding as stated. He refused a lawful order to give his ID. We don't know why the cop opened the door, but we can see the driver is moving around inside. He continued to resist a lawful order.

This is typical of most of these videos who claim police brutality. Cop has reason to pull them over and then the suspect becomes belligerent and refuses to comply, which then leads to the officers having to resort to LAWFUL use of force.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

This video begins well after the confrontation begins. We have no story on the perp with the tattoo'd hands who is cursing and threatening the officer. He reached down on the floor, which is likely why the cop RIGHTLY pulled his gun. The perp claims his proof of registration is on the floor. Now, c'mon man, who keeps their proof of registration on the floor of their car?

I'd like to see you in this situation, Aquila. You judge this officer, claim he's being abusive, yet know nothing of the situation besides what the perp's girlfriend has on video.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're right. There's absolutely no bias in police shootings. Everyone is just out of their minds and making it all up.

Typical response from you.

I'll give you a link to a study
link
https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/pu...lice-use-force

snippet
On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.

The head of this study is an African-American who admitted that he expected to find bias.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I fail to understand why this was posted.

The tags were run, lawfully, and did not come back with any information. Why is that? Defense attorneys, prosecutors and even Ayala herself has stated that the stop was legal and the officers acted within their lawful duty. Ayala claims her tags are confidential, but legally registered.

Good stop. Officers were courteous and respectful. Nothing to see here.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

True story:

A man was doing yard work, so he wasn't looking his Sunday best. His kids were at grandma's, who lives about 8 houses down the street. She called him and told them that they were ready to come home. He starts walking down the street to her house and a little over half-way, out of nowhere he hears, "WOOP! WOOP!", and a cop pulls up next to him and asks him what he's doing and where he's going. He states that he is walking down to his mother-in-law's house to pick up his kids. The cop asks if he has his license or ID. He doesn't have it on him because he was doing yard work and his wallet was on the table on the foyer of his house. The cop asks him his name and where he lives and begins running his name. At that time, his kids see him and he hears "Daddy! Daddy!", as they run up to greet him. The officer looks "disappointed" as he "click-ity-clack-ities" on the computer in his car and sarcastically says, "Well, I guess it's your lucky day.", and drives off.

Ummm... what gives??? You're not allowed to walk down the street of your own neighborhood to pick up your kids anymore?

Link?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, let's all remember to keep waving our flags and singing "God Bless America"... but above all, remember, no sudden moves... or you could easily wind up dead.

Oh good grief. What you're saying in all your rants here is that citizens should be free to confront, resist, make sudden and unannounced moves, refuse to comply and do all this without any fear. Meanwhile, you expect the police to be perfect and never enforce the law, they are to not wear vests for protection from the scumbags who wouldn't bat an eye putting a bullet in their chest, they are not to resort to any kind of force ... even with cause, even if someone reaches down on the floor of their car or under the car seat or if a perp makes any sudden movement.

I wish you would join the force and employ the kind of standards you demand of cops. We'll see how long before your end of watch.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

I fail to understand why this was posted.

The tags were run, lawfully, and did not come back with any information. Why is that? Defense attorneys, prosecutors and even Ayala herself has stated that the stop was legal and the officers acted within their lawful duty. Ayala claims her tags are confidential, but legally registered.

Good stop. Officers were courteous and respectful. Nothing to see here.

Not all cops are bad cops.