Apparent mass shooting on Las Vegas Strip

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Why? What would that ban accomplish?

You do know you can bumpfire any semi auto with only a finger?

Besides, people have had enough. Disarmament is so 90s.

Yes, I know you can bump fire using nothing but a finger. It's also much easier with a stock or crank -- both of which are legal to purchase.

I'm not talking disarmament, this isn't a ban on guns ... this is a ban on using an accessory which can turn a semi-auto into a full auto.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

Yes, I know you can bump fire using nothing but a finger. It's also much easier with a stock or crank -- both of which are legal to purchase.

I'm not talking disarmament, this isn't a ban on guns ... this is a ban on using an accessory which can turn a semi-auto into a full auto.

We need them for the upcoming civil war.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

Did you watch the video? She was full auto for several seconds.

It is not illegal to purchase a bump fire stock or a trigger crank. So tell me how the law against modifying weapons can be enforced if people are free to purchase these items?

Good grief.

Go look up what "full auto" is. Then look up what "bump fire" is. Then enjoy your dish of crow.

I cannot fathom why people who have no clue and experience with firearms laws and firearms operation feel the need to not only demonstrate their ignorance in public, but recommend legislation on the subjects about which they know less than zilch.

[houston]

There was a report out this morning that the guy had the guns connected to some devices so they would shoot automatically. He didn’t have to pull the trigger. No idea what the deceives are called. I don’t know much about guns.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Good grief.

Go look up what "full auto" is. Then look up what "bump fire" is. Then enjoy your dish of crow.

I cannot fathom why people who have no clue and experience with firearms laws and firearms operation feel the need to not only demonstrate their ignorance in public, but recommend legislation on the subjects about which they know less than zilch.

Good grief. DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO???? I doubt it.

Look at the video, specifically at 2:25 mark and again at 2:52 and tell me that isn't full auto.


Video 1, Full auto AR15: https://youtu.be/aX49ZLELow8?t=17s

The video I posted with the bump fire stock: https://youtu.be/U7DTjSla-O8?t=2m25s

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

We need them for the upcoming civil war.

The closest thing to actual utility that bump firing has is if:

You have a quick change barrel (or two AR uppers).
Each barrel is a 20+ inch heavy barrel with bipod.
You have a minimum of 20 90rnd Beta mags.
You have a buddy carrying additional mags and the spare upper.

The only other scenario that would work is if you have a semi auto RPK with a Bumpski type stock, OR one of those belt fed MG32 uppers (which are now classed as firearms) with at least 1200 rounds linked and an asst gunner.

The bumpfire method is less accurate than semi, and only useful in defending against mass attacks. There are better ways to stop human wave attacks.

Unless you have a squad or two and a Chinese coolie humping your ammo for you "bump fire" isn't going to be useful. And even then its utility is questionable.

Suppression? One shot well placed can suppress a whole company for hours if done right.

If the Norks invade your deer rifle will get you all the extra happy funball stuff you can carry.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by houston

There was a report out this morning that the guy had the guns connected to some devices so they would shoot automatically. He didn’t have to pull the trigger. No idea what the deceives are called. I don’t know much about guns.

All the "reports" are democrat stupidity. "The shoulder thing that goes up on the racist AK 15 machine gun rocket launching death ray that kills the chillrenz" level stupidity.

[n david]

Another bump stock video showing full auto capability

https://youtu.be/ks5idq69MN4?t=59s

[Esaias]

Hollywood has created several generations of people highly misinformed about guns and their uses.

Hey, did anyone explain why the shooter(s) didn't mow down the band on stage?

Check out the official music video for the song they were playing when the shooting began:
Jason Aldean - When She Says Baby:

[aegsm76]

Here is a good short article on the difference between bump stocks, semi-autos and autos.
link
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vegas-gun.html