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Originally Posted by n david
"rejected of the Lord," "rebelling against the word of God," "rejecting the truth," "I fear for their souls."
Doesn't sound as though you believe anything but damnation for those who don't believe as you believe.
I don't believe so. My offence is that you and Esaias are damning good people to hell over something which is not salvific. You two are no different than the ultra cons who blast people to hell for short sleeves or colored shirts.
My father is one of the "heretics" Esaias is damning to hell for his belief in pre-trib rapture. My father has been a faithful minister of the Gospel for 60 years this year. I may not agree with him on some issues, but I do not question his salvation because I know the man and have seen his walk with God.
And it's not just my father, but other great elders and ministers who have either already passed or are not likely here much longer. Urshan. Tenney. Mangun. Becton. Ewing. Cole. Barnes. And many others.
So yes, I am offended at the LIE you and Esaias are pushing that those who believe in pre-Trib are heretics and going to hell.
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Just like how others get offended about the idea Grandma Trinitarian may not make it either. Or Grandpa "Eaten by cannibals in Zimbabwe while preaching Jesus to the natives", whose funeral was held at St. Peter Paul and Mary's Roman Catholic Church in Brooklyn.
When people are faced with the fact that heresies are DAMNABLE, they always revert to works based legalistic salvation schemes in order to squeeze Uncle Harry the Unitarian Universalist into the pearly gates.
I already proved the case:
1. Heresies are damnable.
2. Pre trib rapture teaching is a heresy.
3. Therefore, pre trib rapture teaching is a damnable heresy.
If someone would like to take a stab at proving, FROM THE BIBLE, that "it doesn't matter what you believe as long as you agree with the UPCI Unity Statement", they are more than welcome to go for it.
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