13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:4 (KJV)
Who was present that day?
There were men and women present and Mary was one of them and so if they were all filled with the Holy Ghost then Mary and any other women present were also filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:4 (KJV)
Who was present that day?
There were men and women present and Mary was one of them and so if they were all filled with the Holy Ghost then Mary and any other women present were also filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
Thank you but again the NAME of that woman who preached PUBLICLY to men in a local assembly.
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. Romans 16:7 (KJV)
Junia was a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk and fellow prisoners.
She was an apostle according to this verse of Scripture and an apostle is one who can speak , edify, build up etc and to do that an apostle must be able to speak to both men and women .
Apostle is often used to build a church, so would be leading men and correcting men.
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. Romans 16:7 (KJV)
Junia was a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk and fellow prisoners.
She was an apostle according to this verse of Scripture and an apostle is one who can speak , edify, build up etc and to do that an apostle must be able to speak to both men and women .
Apostle is often used to build a church, so would be leading men and correcting men.
God bless
sister Phyllis
Firstly it is a pure assumption Junia is a woman. Many names suit either sex.
Second it does NOT say she was an Apostle it says she was note AMONG the Apostles. I am note among painters I am not a painter. I am note among electricians I am not an electrician. I am not among bankers I am not a banker.
There is NOT the slightest Biblical evidence Junia was a preacher in the five-fold ministry since all saved folks preach or should to the unsaved.
I've read through some different translations and I don't see how you can be absolutely positive it isn't speaking of a husband and wife since it follows a short discourse on Adam and Eve. I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm not saying you're right either.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I say it because the alternative is that single women would be allowed to teach and would not have to learn in silence but married women would have to learn in silence and would be prohibited from usurping authority. I just can't accept this notion of single women being treated differently than married women.
Firstly it is a pure assumption Junia is a woman. Many names suit either sex.
Second it does NOT say she was an Apostle it says she was note AMONG the Apostles. I am note among painters I am not a painter. I am note among electricians I am not an electrician. I am not among bankers I am not a banker.
There is NOT the slightest Biblical evidence Junia was a preacher in the five-fold ministry since all saved folks preach or should to the unsaved.
Brother Epley
Greek students and scholars readily accept the definitions from
Thayer's
Greek Lexicon:
G2458 Ἰουνίας Iounias
Thayer Definition:
Junia = “youthful”
1) a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk
and
fellow prisoners
Part of Speech: noun proper feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Latin origin
Greek students and scholars readily accept the definitions from
Thayer's
Greek Lexicon:
G2458 Ἰουνίας Iounias
Thayer Definition:
Junia = “youthful”
1) a Christian woman at Rome, mentioned by Paul as one of his kinsfolk
and
fellow prisoners
Part of Speech: noun proper feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Latin origin
God bless
sister Phyllis
Others lexicons do not give that. They assume because Junia is a feminine name it is a woman however Shirley and Chris are used for both sexes and I even know a Gail who is a man.
Others lexicons do not give that. They assume because Junia is a feminine name it is a woman however Shirley and Chris are used for both sexes and I even know a Gail who is a man.
Shirley for a man?????
Chris can be short form of Christine, Chrissy, etc.
Preaching or testifying or witnessing on the job at the house in the street is NOT the same as publicly preaching to MEN in an assembly AUTHORITY is involved there.
Who's authority? Do you have authority to preach or is it God's authority?
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