Apostoic worship??

[Michael The Disciple]

If worship had been like this when I was a young person I would have begged my folks to take me to Church.

Jon Thurlo ONE THING 2017.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If worship had been like this when I was a young person I would have begged my folks to take me to Church.

Jon Thurlo ONE THING 2017.

An alt-rock concert? Van Halen put on a better show by far. And Judas Priest was even better than them.

People have substituted entertainment for worship, lighting and "atmospherics" for the presence of God, and feelings for the power of God. Thus, here we are, 21st century religion, Bread and Circus Worship "Experiences" to suit every taste and want, and a famine of hearing the Word of the Lord.

[Esaias]

Jon Thurlow and his buddy Todd White:

Jon Thurlow One Thing 2016 (with Todd White) - AN…:

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

An alt-rock concert? Van Halen put on a better show by far. And Judas Priest was even better than them.

People have substituted entertainment for worship, lighting and "atmospherics" for the presence of God, and feelings for the power of God. Thus, here we are, 21st century religion, Bread and Circus Worship "Experiences" to suit every taste and want, and a famine of hearing the Word of the Lord.

I know of no more glorious and heavenly worship. I doubt this side of heaven it will be found.

And so how much time did you watch this before pronouncing your judgment? Not much would be my guess.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I know of no more glorious and heavenly worship. I doubt this side of heaven it will be found.

And so how much time did you watch this before pronouncing your judgment? Not much would be my guess.

Are you serious? The guy is deep in bed with heretics and charlatans, and somehow there's nothing more glorious this side of heaven? Its mood music and emotionalism, Jesus is your boyfriend effeminate soft-rock concert standard TBN type stuff.

[Esaias]

True worship is in Spirit and Truth, not psychological catharsis induced by mind manipulating music and concert effects.

Jesus had no form or comeliness that we should desire Him (according to the flesh) but IHOP and most modern religious "worship" is designed to do exactly that - appeal to the flesh, sensuality, and sense perceptions, producing an emotional INTOXICATION. It's the wine of Babylon and a standard part of ancient Baal worship. It's all about "revelling" in the "worship experience", it's the religious equivalent of firing 15cc heroin up the mainline and nodding off into "euphoria" FOR ITS OWN SAKE.

God doesn't need a million dollar extravaganza, He can knock you out of the ballpark into the third heaven WITH NO INPUT FROM YOU WHATSOEVER. And the difference? The Holy Ghost changes you to be more like Him, brings Truth and Reality into your life. He doesn't lead you into pining away for the flesh pots of Egypt or into worshipping an ecstatic form of worship.

The whole 60s music movement ruined humanity's ability to unplug from the matrix.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Jon Thurlow and his buddy Todd White:

Jon Thurlow One Thing 2016 (with Todd White) - AN…:

Once Todd White gets out of the way the rest of this is glorious. Even in this which is a bit tainted by TW'S shameful hair style I have personally never seen the glory and majesty of God being proclaimed in such manner in an "Apostolic" Church.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

True worship is in Spirit and Truth, not psychological catharsis induced by mind manipulating music and concert effects.

Jesus had no form or comeliness that we should desire Him (according to the flesh) but IHOP and most modern religious "worship" is designed to do exactly that - appeal to the flesh, sensuality, and sense perceptions, producing an emotional INTOXICATION. It's the wine of Babylon and a standard part of ancient Baal worship. It's all about "revelling" in the "worship experience", it's the religious equivalent of firing 15cc heroin up the mainline and nodding off into "euphoria" FOR ITS OWN SAKE.

God doesn't need a million dollar extravaganza, He can knock you out of the ballpark into the third heaven WITH NO INPUT FROM YOU WHATSOEVER. And the difference? The Holy Ghost changes you to be more like Him, brings Truth and Reality into your life. He doesn't lead you into pining away for the flesh pots of Egypt or into worshipping an ecstatic form of worship.

The whole 60s music movement ruined humanity's ability to unplug from the matrix.

Same thing Baptists say about Pentecostals. Amen?

It's all about "revelling" in the "worship experience", it's the religious equivalent of firing 15cc heroin up the mainline and nodding off into "euphoria" FOR ITS OWN SAKE.

So you think that to all that are blessed by this glorious and majestic worship of Jesus they are just listening to and what you call "revelling"
in it just FOR ITS OWN SAKE?

Again thats precisely what the Evangelicals accuse Pentecostals of. Im ok with some of the Baptist/Pentecostal songs but to me they are not even close to the heavenly wonder I have felt in the more modern praise and worship.

[Aquila]

Small minds demand that we all think alike.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Once Todd White gets out of the way the rest of this is glorious. Even in this which is a bit tainted by TW'S shameful hair style I have personally never seen the glory and majesty of God being proclaimed in such manner in an "Apostolic" Church.

Dude. Todd White and company IS IHOP. Are you hearing your own words? "Once the pope gets out of the way..."????

I am surprised. False teachers, false prophets, charlatans and hucksters, producing THE most spiritual, divine, glorious true worship of God?

Can you not see the ridiculousness of the claim?