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Re: Reconciling and purifying Heaven?
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And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
(Colossians 1:20) It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
(Hebrews 9:23-24) Christ's work of reconciliation and purification is not limited to us, or to earthly things and people, but also involved a purifying of things in heaven, and/or heaven itself.
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this reminds of of the Adventist Investigative judgement doctrine
Seventh-day Adventist Fundamental Beliefs Item 24:
24. Christ's Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary:
There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf, making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered once for all on the cross. He was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent. ( Heb. 8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22; 1:3; 2:16, 17; Dan. 7:9-27; 8:13, 14; 9:24-27; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6; Lev. 16; Rev. 14:6, 7; 20:12; 14:12; 22:12.)
http://cottonwood22.adventistchurchc...t-in-scripture
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Originally Posted by Esaias
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
( Colossians 1:20)
It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
( Hebrews 9:23-24)
Christ's work of reconciliation and purification is not limited to us, or to earthly things and people, but also involved a purifying of things in heaven, and/or heaven itself.
So, does anyone have any ideas about what that involves? |
I believe it had to do with our uncleanness and preparing heaven for it, connected to the remission of sins.
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02-03-2018, 12:38 PM
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I believe it had to do with our uncleanness and preparing heaven for it, connected to the remission of sins.
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It's like a message, the blood from the sacrifice is applied to the temple of heaven indicating we were cleansed to enter there.
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Re: Reconciling and purifying Heaven?
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It's like a message, the blood from the sacrifice is applied to the temple of heaven indicating we were cleansed to enter there.
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Do you have that on audio. If so email it to me.
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02-03-2018, 04:11 PM
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Do you have that on audio. If so email it to me.
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No. I don't have it on audio.
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Re: Reconciling and purifying Heaven?
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No. I don't have it on audio.
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When will it be on audio?
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02-03-2018, 05:12 PM
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When will it be on audio?
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I don't have a study made on it. When I Mentioned it's like a message, I meant there's a message in that verse about the issue I think it spoke about. 
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Re: Reconciling and purifying Heaven?
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I don't have a study made on it. When I Mentioned it's like a message, I meant there's a message in that verse about the issue I think it spoke about. |
Put a message together and send it to me 
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02-03-2018, 06:31 PM
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Re: Reconciling and purifying Heaven?
His NAME is Jesus!
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I believe it had to do with our uncleanness and preparing heaven for it, connected to the
remission of sins.
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GOOD.
There is nothing in heaven (eternity) that needs to be purified, for everything
there is already sanctified by God's HOLINESS. The original Ark of the Covenant
(Ark of Testimony) is already pure and holy, but it had to receive the blood to
TESTIFY to our redemption.
Brother Villa
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02-04-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
His NAME is Jesus!
GOOD.
There is nothing in heaven (eternity) that needs to be purified, for everything
there is already sanctified by God's HOLINESS. The original Ark of the Covenant
(Ark of Testimony) is already pure and holy, but it had to receive the blood to
TESTIFY to our redemption.
Brother Villa
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