I have Left the UPC Church

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It is something to note as well that amongst all religious responses to the question "What must we do?", what the apostles gave was Acts 2:38. We find no, "Raise your hand and accept Jesus into your heart," or "sign your name on a membership roll." These are issues the UPC has correct.

And the day of Pentecost is when the church started. And the bible specifically says they stood on the apostles' doctrine.

Even Jesus said that He prayed for His disciples and that the world might believe THROUGH THEIR word.

I really believe these are stedfast issues, M. What the bible flatly says in plain language is sure. Other extrabiblical issues as if women go to hell for wearing pants are really no-brainers that they are NOT foundational issues.

Keep this passage in mind in your journey:



Never compromise those 6 issues.

We are total agreement, this is what I believe and have believed and teach our church to believe.

We better have the same answer to that original question, what must I do to be saved?

[Scott Hutchinson]

I'm not out to blast MICH ,but one can be saved and not be UPCI ,but I would stay with what the early church taught ,and please stay in a home church.
But stay with Jesus Christ and fast and pray and read the word.

[Brother Price]

Well said.

[tamor]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

No, me and my *cough* friend.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Oh my....is it MY daughter??????

No.. but she does speak spanish...

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by tamor

Yes???

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Having a warped sense of who God is will cause you to have a warped sense of who you are. We are the express image of Him. If you can not see God the right way you need to leave the UPC if they are the problem. Make sure that if you leave do so with your eyes on Him and Him alone. Don't leave with your eyes on how dissappointed or how much you hate the UPC. That will only cause bittnerness and then there will be no way you can see God for who and what He is.

This is easier said than done at times. Focus is the most important thing right now. I left the UPC and focused on how I was dissappointed with the UPC. It almost destroyed me. I have since gone back to a UPC church, but a way less judgemental church and I am happy now. I did that with caution though. I searched this out for a while. I may not stay in a UPC church forever. I was in the ministry at a UPC church and maybe being out of the ministry for a while will make it better. But focus on the face of God and the voice of God. I promise that over the next few weeks you will hear what you think is the voice of God. Make sure it is the voice of God you hear and not the voice of the controling pastor taking the place of God's voice.

I can assure you, there is far more danger in thinking the voice of the flesh (self, the carnal nature we are born with) is the voice of God than there is in thinking the voice of some 'controlling pastor', as you put it, is God's voice.

Big revelation, friend: God has already revealed Himself in His Word, and He chooses to feed and lead His people through pastors after His own heart.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

I can assure you, there is far more danger in thinking the voice of the flesh (self, the carnal nature we are born with) is the voice of God than there is in thinking the voice of some 'controlling pastor', as you put it, is God's voice.

Big revelation, friend: God has already revealed Himself in His Word, and He chooses to feed and lead His people through pastors after His own heart.

But Mich HAS been in some controlling situations, so it will take her some time to realize that not all pastors are alike. Most of them are God-fearing, people loving men of faith.

Originally Posted by Sherri

But Mich HAS been in some controlling situations, so it will take her some time to realize that not all pastors are alike. Most of them are God-fearing, people loving men of faith.

I'm not denying any of Mich's past experiences. I am addressing a very serious issue that I have personally witnessed cause souls to fall away into error. I don't wish for that to happen to Mich, or anybody else.

[Scott Hutchinson]

We all need Spiritual mentoring and not control freaks ,but if you leave Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit one will indeed have left the church.