Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy

[Amanah]

would it be interesting to start a discussion thread on heresies in general, based on the following:

how do we determine what is heretical, and what doctrines should cause separation and which should not?

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[Amanah]

nevermind, this is probably a bad idea, the last thing we need is the 15 remaining posters calling each other heretics.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Amanah

nevermind, this is probably a bad idea, the last thing we need is the 15 remaining posters calling each other heretics.

most posters here simply would not attend the same church

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by consapente89

most posters here simply would not attend the same church

Since some of use handles here on AFF, perhaps we do attend the same church without knowing it!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Your lack of perfect knowledge on this subject means you are doctrinally impure and thus consigned to hell.

How childish. Once again showing you cannot have an honest discussion with someone who disagrees with you. Sad. You coulda been a contendah!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

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We already read the verse in Galatians which declared that "heresies" are works of the flesh and that those who engage in such things will NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. This means heretics (those who hold to heresies) will NOT BE SAVED.

If you hold to doctrines that are CONTRARY to the doctrines taught by the Bible, that cause you to become part of some "ism" or some sect(ion) of the church that is contrary to the body of teachings delivered by the apostles, you are engaged in a work of the flesh and have joined yourself to a work of the flesh. And, you will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Here it is again:

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, (20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, (21) Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Notice that word "seditions" right before "heresies". That word is dichostasiai, and means this:

G1370
δῐχο-στᾰσία, ἡ,
dissension, B. 10.67 (pl.), Hdt. 5.75, Eus.Mynd. 45, Plu. 2.20c; sedition, Sol. 4.38, Thgn. 78, LXX 1Ma_3:29.

Seditions are divisions or separations from or disagreements with. With what? Obviously the doctrines of the apostles! If a person disagrees with the teachings of the Bible, they are "dissenting" from the apostolic doctrine, they are part of a dissension. They are guilty of "sedition", which is essentially a rebellion against proper lawful authority. When a Christian accepts doctrines that are non apostolic and which cause them to be in disagreement with the teachings of the apostles, they are in rebellion against the lawful ordained authority. The apostles are commissioned to establish doctrine in the church. If you disagree with their teachings, you are in rebellion or sedition against their authority. And if you are in rebellion against the authority of the apostles in regards to doctrine, you are not only guilty of sedition, but of heresy. The two go hand in hand. And those who do such will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ecumenicalism claims that heretics, those who teach doctrines other than and contrary to what the apostles taught, will inherit the kingdom of God. As you can see, ecumenicalism contradicts the NT. Which makes ecumenicalism a dissension from, a sedition against, NT apostolic doctrinal authority, which makes ecumenicalism itself a soul-damning heresy.

James Glen is upset that I high five you.

James do you go to a UPCI church?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

How childish. Once again showing you cannot have an honest discussion with someone who disagrees with you. Sad. You coulda been a contendah!

It is interesting how Psychological projection and cognitive dissonance abound on forums. We are Sean?

Wow.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

nevermind, this is probably a bad idea, the last thing we need is the 15 remaining posters calling each other heretics.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Since some of use handles here on AFF, perhaps we do attend the same church without knowing it!

You would know if you attend the same church as me.

[Truthseeker]

The trib happened already, so there is no pre, mid or post trib in the future.