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Old 03-16-2018, 10:29 AM
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Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?

His NAME is Jesus!

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Originally Posted by Esaias View Post
The Greek does not allow for a difference between forgiveness and remission. Its the same
Greek word translated as either forgiveness or remission.
The Spirit does what a dictionary cannot

That means nobody since then has needed to be forgiven. There is no Scripture which says
"the whole world was forgiven".
What is "Propitiation"?

That means nobody since then is under sentence of death, which means everyone - EVERYONE -
is already saved. As for mercy being extended, God has always been extending mercy. The birth of
Messiah was an act of mercy from God toward man. The calling of Abraham, the saving of Noah, all were
examples of God's mercy extended toward man. To suggest "it is at THAT point mercy was extended"
means previous to THAT point, no mercy had been extended. Which is not true.
Saved solely by your interpretation of "forgiveness";
Yes, the Birth of Jesus is an act of mercy, to bring us to grace;
Abraham is God allowing for an "elect"; Noah, "...found grace..."; but today,
the Holy Spirit (grace) "...has been poured out..."; mercy could not wash away
our (humanity's) sin: that's why animal sacrifices were instituted;
of course mercy was extended, first to Abraham's seed, and to the whole world
via their testimony. But now we have a "...mediator of a better covenant, which
was established upon better promises."


Psalm 25:6-7 show that your statement here is incorrect, or at least badly worded. Jeremiah 31:34 shows
that in forgiveness, God does NOT remember sin.
Beautiful. Is he writing of the NAME and grace that was not yet evident, or of
God's mercies and love shown through the Law?


Forgiveness and remission are identical, and nobody is forgiven of their sins unless and until they repent
and receive apostolic Christian baptism.
Forgiveness and remission are transferable, equated by man's understanding: but we
must understand that we must endeavor to compare content and context...always.

NOTE: Mercy was concentrated (so to speak) upon Abraham's seed, but never
forgetting the promise "...even unto the uttermost part of the world." And also:
"God having provided some better thing for us, that they WITHOUT US should not be
made perfect."


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