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Old 03-22-2018, 10:51 AM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?

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I'm quite well aware of the year, but referenced this because I have never received a straight answer from antitrinitarians of sundry stripes. Some say no, most say "no" in the most vicious terms, some refuse to answer, some are altogether ignorant, some have a view that no human soul is capable of understanding the divinity per Psalm 131 or 136 as a thing too high for mankind to grasp.

I honestly wonder if most modalists have ever bothered to read a work on the triad. Like most other antitrinitarians, it seems to me to be such that they take at face value what they are told toto cælo from whatever authority, even if incorrect. If I had a dollar for all the literally identical hackneyed, frequently false arguments antitrinitarians use, often stealing from one another without credit, there would never be another bill to pay! Personally, it is revealing to be likened to homosexuals or heathen being neither. The grace shown often appears one-sided, and not on the antitrinitarian part...

I possess the 2017 UPCI manual. It declares, particularly in its position papers, lost all who do not accept its modified Sabellianism. If it believes in a literal hell, there is no stretch of the imagination to where it declares all to go who reject or never hear its message. Interestingly, it steals the exact wording and format of the Assemblies of God's documents over a century after is excommunication by the Assemblies. I could easily level against you the charge of disinformation because Trinitarian theology is not partialism; we affirm personhood. You do not if I have properly represented so-deemed Jesus-Only teaching.

I reiterate I am studying Oneness Pentecostalism because I have no experience with it after 21 years in mainline Pentecostalism. Frankly, the responses 20 years ago from your camp are unchanged toward trinitarians despite being an unbeliever until 2009, wholly ignorant of the issue as a child, save that they were supposed to be wrong and unable to join the church, though welcome therein. Perhaps you ought to ask the UPCI headquarters in Missouri why it lists CF Parham, Tertullian and other Pentecostal trinitarians forefathers in the preface.

I'm not looking for a debate. I'm looking for opinions, thanks.
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