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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen
Ok go to 39:30 to 43:00 at (40:25, 70:58 also) and listen to what he says. We are not the only ones saying these things. This is a great message btw. He's speaking the truth.
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Brother Jonathan Alvear is one of my favorite preachers. I love the way he preaches with conviction. He is very knowledgeable of the Bible. He is, in this particular case absolutely wrong.
He is wrong historically, because old-time Pentecostal preachers typically wore beards. There have been many examples of the patriarchs of Pentecost wearing beards. Is there any question that he was wrong historically?
He is wrong scripturarally. As Michael has said, he did not quote any scripture to support the standard of being clean-shaven. The man-made standard of being clean-shaven is not supported by any scripture. In this wise it is like a lot of man-made standards in that the scripture very often undermines the standard. Sis. Alvear, Michael, Aquila, and myself have pointed out that this is the case with the beard prohibition.
I'd like to make a point about false doctrine or standards that are extra-biblical. When preachers cannot reference the Bible to support their position, they will nearly always quote other preachers. This is what 1ofthechosen did in this case. He found a preacher that agreed with his viewpoint and posted an audio of him saying what he wanted to say. It seems that if you can't quote Bible, you do the next best thing (in our eyes) and quote a preacher, preferably one who is well respected. In my opinion, this borders on idolatry, I am sure there will be some who will be happy to be indignant towards me for saying so. Aquila has referred several times to us adding to the Bible. He is right. Do we believe that the Bible is insufficient? Are we so wise in our own eyes that we believe we have a better idea? We are to be very careful about adding to or diminishing from the words of God.
Deut.4
[2] Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
People who are tempted to add to or subtract from the words of God (Have we not all been guilty of this at one time or another?), should probably examine their own heart and try to find the reason why they so badly want to change the words of God.
I respect Bro. Jonathan Alvear a lot, and I'm sure he had a lot of good things to say in this sermon, however he is teaching the tradition of men in this case. God's word is still supreme, even if I would be tempted to believe Bro. Alvear, I draw the line when he contradicts the Bible.
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