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Old 04-26-2018, 11:58 AM
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Re: Starbucks and White Guilt

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Whoa there tiger... you're getting all heated and spastic again.
What are you talking about? I am perfectly calm. Why do you always do this? Whenever I post a disagreement, you claim I'm some wild, frothing at the mouth, maniac.

Spastic? No, I don't have cerebral palsy. Do you understand the words you post?

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I was told that he was UPCI. But whatever organization he has been affiliated with is irrelevant to the point.
If it's not relevant, why mention it at all? You made it part of the story when you wrote it. If it's not relevant, don't use it. Especially when you don't know personally that it's true.

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I can understand your concerns. I'm not asking anyone to "condemn the guy".
Yes, you were. You called the guy "vulgar" and said he used "vulgar" words. You were upset, and still are, that I didn't jump to bash the "vulgar" man.

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Now, like I said, I understand your concerns. But, you did something equally as bad. You accused me of lying about the man
Absolutely, I did. And with good reason. You pledged to send me a name via PM because at first I doubted it was true. I didn't flat out call you a liar right away. It was only after you went dark for a couple days, resurfaced and made a few posts while ignoring the post I bumped asking for the name. You also ignored EB and Chosen's posts about sending me a PM.

I even sent you a PM which you ignored and never responded to. After that, yes, I did. Your actions were that of someone not being honest.

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You had no problem with condemning me, blasting me, personally attack me, in short, being quite vile towards me.
Let's be clear, had you responded and not ignored multiple posts and PMs, I wouldn't have put you on blast. I almost wonder if you ignored it on purpose, waiting for me to call you out and then play the poor victim as you are now.

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There is something in you that wants to be nasty to me. It wants to get vile, accusatory, and downright mean. But none of that is my problem. That is something within you that you're going to have to come to grips with.
You're good. And predictable. You're always the right one. The hero and the victim. Others are the villains. You're multifaceted, deep and incredibly brilliant. Others of us are too dumb to truly understand and appreciate your google-sourced wisdom.

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I apologize. I did renege on my statement that I'd give you the man's name. I fully intended to in the heat of the moment. However, I began to think about it. I don't want to be accused of slandering the man, because "HE" wasn't the subject.
Yet you made him the subject by calling him "vulgar" and saying he used "vulgar" words.

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I sent the name of the individual's wall the conversation was on, and the name of the man in question to an individual, whose ethics and judgment I trust, who was a part of our discussion.
Don't cry or get upset, but I don't believe you. Even if you did, you did so because you know the person you sent it to will not try to contact the person you blasted here and check the story. You knew I would find the person and contact him. You knew it wouldn't look good on you to be blasting someone behind their back on AFF. That's the real reason you didn't send me the name.

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In this way, I did take a step towards fulfilling your request,
Seriously? By claiming you sent the name to someone else, you believe you made good on your pledge to send me the name? That's not how that works.

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If you guys want to put this man on blast publically, it won't be me who participates in that action.
You already blasted the man and called him "vulgar." Don't try to pretend you're innocent. You brought him into the discussion, no one else.

As I post this, my Gear watch tells me my heart rate is at a steady 68 bpm. I'm certainly not heated nor "spastic," as you wish to portray me. Were we having a conversation face to face, you could see for yourself that while I am being blunt, I'm very calm. I rarely raise my voice at anyone. I find it most effective speaking in a clear, concise and even voice.
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