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Originally Posted by n david
I do not believe this is true. I say this only because there is nothing on ihop's website which backs this claim. Nor is there anything on Mike Bickle's website.
This guy who used to be the Evangelism Director at ihop has a video about being filled with the HG, but thus far in the video it is not a part of salvation, but occurs AFTER assurance of salvation. His own statement of faith states that assurance of salvation is at "trusting Christ as savior."
The lengthy post on baptism you posted even has that they should be baptized in the titles. So the part you put in all caps is incorrect.
Sorry, but I don't believe it.
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You are not reading anything I am saying. I never said they believe Acts 2:38 is the new birth. I said they teach repenting, being baptized in Jesus name and receiving the Holy Ghost baptism with tongues.
THEY PRACTICE ACTS 2:38.
I asked you and Dom if YOU BELIEVED if someone repents and is baptized in the name of Jesus and receives the Spirit baptism is born again to which Dom answered yes. I never saw an answer from you.
But now Dom and I suppose you have backed off that if one DOES
Acts 2:38 they are born again.
BTW you can see Hal Linhardt baptizing someone in Jesus name in this thread.
You failed to read the article when you say they baptize in the titles.
NAME INTO WHICH THE BELIEVER IS BAPTIZED
A.The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
Matt. 28:19- 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Name of Father: Lord.
Exodus 3:15; God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you ' This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.
Exodus 15:3 "The LORD is a warrior; The LORD is His name.
Isa. 42:8 ”I am the LORD, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another,
Name of Son: Jesus.
Luke 1:31- “.. you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus.”
John 17:6, 11, 12- 6" I have manifested Your name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.
11"I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12"While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.
Name of Holy Spirit: Christ (Messiah or Anointed One)
Matt. 3:16 16After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him,
1 John 2:20,27 20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know.
27As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
Thus the triune name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit is interpreted in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is the name used in water baptism in the book of Acts.
Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
8:12, 16 But when they believed Philip preaching the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were being baptized, men and women alike. 16For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
10:48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
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So if you cant admit the obvious that they do baptize in Jesus name and teach the Spirit with tongues you must not want to see it.
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