Psychotropic Drugs in Religious Rituals

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

EB, you spent a great deal of time denying that PTSD existed, and insinuated that seeking professional help was foolish and ignorant. That mocks the very real issue of PTSD experienced by vets and trauma survivors. Don't you remember the thread, Psychiatry An Industry Of Death?

Chris, it isn't anything new that you are dishonest.

I remember the thread well, and it still can be found. That is something you haven't figured out yet. Chris, people can go there and read how you thought a child being burned on a stove was lite fun. You used your children in this thread with you claiming what if YOU committed suicide? Chris, your history in church has nothing to do with anything but YOU. Get it together.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No, just pointing it out that you are a mess, and no matter what your reasons you can mock child torture.

If you committed suicide?

Don't take your time looking for a church, run like your head was on fire.

I mocked your pain only because you made a mockery of the pain of others. In post #151 (http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=151), you stated that none of that effects you anyway. You state that you forgave, forgot, and moved on in peace. Yet it keeps surfacing in your consciousness now that someone else mocked your pain, and it now becomes a part of your every conversation with me. The truth is, you can push everyone else's buttons, mock their pain, and malign their character... even mock their searching for medical help as they wait on God's healing touch... but if someone pushes your button regarding your pain... you can't let it go.

Post #160 expresses what I and others have seen quite well (http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=160). I'm not saying this to attack you. I'm saying this only in the hopes that you might look in the mirror and consider that perhaps you do tend to be merciless, hard, and vindictive at times.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Chris, it isn't anything new that you are dishonest.

I remember the thread well, and it still can be found. That is something you haven't figured out yet. Chris, people can go there and read how you thought a child being burned on a stove was lite fun. You used your children in this thread with you claiming what if YOU committed suicide? Chris, your history in church has nothing to do with anything but YOU. Get it together.

Ah, let the reader note that EB never answered the question of what he would do if his advice led to someone harming themselves as a result of giving up the medications he's spent pages demonizing.

You really should become one of those televangelists. I'm sure you could talk plenty of people into giving up their medications as they claim their healing and send you thousands of dollars. And evidently, you'd not give the impact of what you're teaching a second thought if it led to the actual harm of another person.

Seriously, if someone read your position on this thread and gave up their meds, and something happened... wouldn't you be morally responsible to some degree?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I mocked your pain only because you made a mockery of the pain of others. In post #151 (http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=151), you stated that none of that effects you anyway. You state that you forgave, forgot, and moved on in peace. Yet it keeps surfacing in your consciousness now that someone else mocked your pain, and now becomes a part of your every conversation with me. The truth is, you can push everyone else's buttons, mock their pain, and malign their character... but someone push your button regarding your pain... and you can't let it go.

Post 160 expresses what I and others have seen quite well (http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=160). I'm not saying this to attack you. I'm saying this only in the hopes that you might look in the mirror and consider that perhaps you do tend to be merciless, hard, and vindictive at times.

Chris, this only proves that you don't have PTSD, or care about others who may or may not have PTSD. Nighthawk is a troll, who has been shown to be a troll. Still, it is all on you. Should I parade all the posters who believe you should be placed on ignore, or even banned? Chris, you have issues, you read the post of me posting to NDavid and shredded it. No problem, but you could care less about abused children. You used your own in a post about you committing suicide. You need help.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Ah, let the reader note that EB never answered the question of what he would do if his advice led to someone harming themselves as a result of giving up the medications he's spent pages demonizing.

You really should become one of those televangelists. I'm sure you could talk plenty of people into giving up their medications after sending you thousands of dollars. And evidently, you'd not give the impact of what you're teaching a second thought if it led to the actual harm of another person.

What if your advise concerning psychotropic drugs caused someone to lose out with God? Chris, you want to do drugs, do them. Because you don't believe in the Holy Ghost. Makes one wonder what you were doing in old Brother Shearer's church.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Chris, this only proves that you don't have PTSD, or care about others who may or may not have PTSD. Nighthawk is a troll, who has been shown to be a troll. Still, it is all on you. Should I parade all the posters who believe you should be placed on ignore, or even banned? Chris, you have issues, you read the post of me posting to NDavid and shredded it. No problem, but you could care less about abused children. You used your own in a post about you committing suicide. You need help.

You're obfuscating to avoid answering the question.

If someone read your position on this thread and gave up their psychotropic meds, and something happened... wouldn't you be morally responsible to some degree?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're obfuscating to avoid answering the question.

If someone read your position on this thread and gave up their psychotropic meds, and something happened... wouldn't you be morally responsible to some degree?

They wouldn't, if they were following what I'm saying they would do what you would not. They would find an Apostolic Pentecostal Church and receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost. If they followed you and what you are saying they would smoke a bag, and be as messed up as you are currently.

You want to smoke dope, have at it,. You Don't believe in the power of the Holy Ghost, sorry.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Chris you sure must be caught in a crack over you saying "what if you were going to kill yourself." Even you know that you stepped in it. Stop making your pleas, and just go get saved.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What if your advise concerning psychotropic drugs caused someone to lose out with God? Chris, you want to do drugs, do them. Because you don't believe in the Holy Ghost. Makes one wonder what you were doing in old Brother Shearer's church.

Wait... You believe that God is big enough to keep and heal one who desperately needs healing... but suddenly God becomes too small to heal if one is taking medications? Why do you believe that medications will tie God's hands and render Him incapable of moving, causing one to miss out on Him?

I do know a Pastor's wife who takes medications on account of being bipolar. Is she beyond God's healing power because she takes medication as she waits for her healing?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

They wouldn't, if they were following what I'm saying they would do what you would not. They would find an Apostolic Pentecostal Church and receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost. If they followed you and what you are saying they would smoke a bag, and be as messed up as you are currently.

You want to smoke dope, have at it,. You Don't believe in the power of the Holy Ghost, sorry.

You keep mentioning smoking cannabis. What I'm talking about is primarily provided in CBD forms without THC, and is often taken as capsule, an oil, or a vapor. Medical cannabis isn't always smoked.