Saved Without A Pastor??

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

How very long? Do y'all do it once a year?

Do you believe that churches should do foot washing?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Brother, I grasp at straws much less often than you likely think.

Tell me about Cornelius. Acts chapter 10.

Let's talk about the fifteenth chapter of Acts and Paul's revival description of the Gentiles being saved.

Cornelius first. What is your answer.

The truth of the matter is that when Hebrews was written, the Gentile church probably outnumbered the Jewish (Jerusalem) church.

You base that on what?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Let's clarify this because it needs to be said. The answer to all these are no, and neither have I ever.

But for the record I would kneel before the Pastor praising God for a Shepherd after His heart Hes placed in my life. Never would I worship a man, it would all be unto God. In everything I do "whatsoever in word or deed, I do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by Him." As in the context of what the good Elder did say, this is what was intended by him. He said plainly we don't worship men. Neither did I hear them say that anyone had to do this, nor did I hear any guns being cocked, or did I hear him guilt trip anyone into doing it. In no way did he say worship the Pastor he said to worship God, and thank Him, and he said that to those who were thankful for that. As for me I praise God for the great Pastor He has placed in my life, not as showing respect to his person, as for what he has been a gift from God in my life. I praise Jesus for real men of God, with a burden to be in Gods will, not compromising, and feeding Gods flock. That's what Jesus clearly told Peter to do in John 21:15-17. So we can know this is alive and well today. I'm sorry you havent experienced it TM, but it's God will for His church and it's alive and well. For Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

All I can say is this is a real man of God as this is one of my Pastors elders. He is involved with our church. The same thing goes with Brother Riggen, though he's not a elder. Bur these men are used mightily by God in bringing revival and missionary works. Elder Phil White in the Phillpenes, and Brother Riggen in Africa. So this whole spirit thats behind let me find something you said wrong and twist it to mean what id like it to mean to discredit your witness, does speak for itself. Especially when the person feels at large about the office of Pastor like this thread clearly shows proof anyway. We can know the spirit of Athaliah is alive and well today.

TM Im only saying this because you gave your opinion, so here I blessed you with mine... Now enough of this, it's time to move on, so for whatever my two cents is worth there you have it.

Thank you. I feel better about you. You have misrepresented what I said about Phil White but that I have come to expect from you. No apologies is another thing I’ve come to expect.

I did say that Phil White was careful to say we don’t worship men. Check the record. I think I said that the symbolism was concerning. I invited EB to listen for himself and give his opinion. Check the record. So enough about that.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Do you believe that churches should do foot washing?

Yea

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa View Post
Did Brother Phil White preach that saints should kneel before the pastor every day?


Every service meeting?

Or every Sunday?

Did 1ofthechosen post that he kneels before his pastor every day?

Every service meeting?

Or every Sunday?




If the answer to his question was no to all those things, you answered your own question.

It wasn’t my own question. It was EB’s question. Unless you mean the one about you kneeling in front of your pastor? In that case it didn’t answer that one. But you followed up with a loong post that did answer it.

Thank you.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You base that on what?

Partially on the fact that the Gentile churches were able to help them from their abundance. There were far more Gentile churches as well. He did say that there were none. Which is simply wrong.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

So you believe before there was even a church, the Samaritan woman was saved who was a Gentile? The answer is there was no church yet, wrong dispensation still. So once again friend here you go grasping at straws...

Was the Samaritan woman saved? Well I’m not sure. Jesus did imply that salvation was available to her though. Remember the “living water”? We do know what living water is. Don’t we?

Another example: The woman with the alabaster box of ointment that was a sinner? Jesus told her she was saved. Let me grasp at another straw.

48] And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
[49] And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?
[50] And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

I am happily grasping at straws. Let me know what you think about this. Or just pretend you never saw it like you usually do when I bring the goods er straws.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Not true the biggest church was the one in Jerusalem that's the significance of the epistle of Jude for thats who it was written to. There was a lot of time that passed from Acts 2 until Acts 10. It wasn't 8 days.

It wasn’t 8 days but we’re talking over thirty years likely between the crucifixion and when Hebrews was written. I believe there were many more Gentiles than Jews at this point. Don’t forget, you said there were no Gentiles. If there were only one person then your statement was wrong. Cornelius?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I am going to go into this in length. I promise you that.

But, first I want you to tell me how many of your children are teenagers now?

Not too many.

Why?

[Old Paths]

Thought I would leave this right here...........


ALL pastors are hindrances and one should never have a pastor, they will only abuse you and you will get hurt. Instead get your instructions from forum gurus that have never built a church.~Steve Epley.