My Take On Illegal Immigration - Page 42

nathan_slatter · #**411** 06-13-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

I could also argue that this refusal to "move up the ladder" will lead to more separation between "classes" or economic brackets of people... we will end up with people that are very rich and people that are very poor if it continues.

I think it's heading that way anyway... but I'm a pessimist...

Theresa · #**412** 06-13-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Where do you live? Have you picked up your local newspaper lately? Here it's filled every week with some news about a robbery, murder, assault, etc committed by an illegal. - I dont know where you live, and I'm sure there is plenty of crime to be attributed to the illegals....BUT - if you are fair, more crime is actually committed by red blooded "americans"...have you read the accounts of the crime post say, hurricane katrina? those folks arent illegal...

Seen the statics for crime in Oregon from the meth users?? they arent illegal.

Here in my area, looking at my local newspaper, illegals are NOT committing the crime.

They all live 10-15 to one house working dead end, grunt jobs that no one else will take.

Americans aren't lazy . . . they just won't work for less than what the national average pay is, while illegals will. That doesn't make Americans lazy. - Anyone who would rather sit on their can and collect unemployment, goverment aid, or other handouts, rather than WORK to support themselves and their family - IS LAZY. If one job doesnt pay enough, GET TWO.

Sorry, but that "it doesnt pay enough" is a cop out - it very well may not pay much - but if it's what you can get, you get it.

I hate to hear people complain b/c they can't get higher paying jobs when in reality they arent educated enough, or have the work ethic to have said job - we are all products of the choices we made - stay in school, get a job, keep your job - grow up..

dont sit back expecting someone to hand you something...

Why do we need to reform a system that's not broken? What needs to happen is they need to ENFORCE the system already in place . . . not create some new reform that won't be enforced.

the system is broken if a woman can sit at home, continue to have children while the government pays for her house, her food and her health care - and she doesnt have to take one of these "low paying jobs" b/c she makes more making babies....

but an illegal can come in, pick our crops, clean our hotel rooms,cook our food, clean up after us, build our houses, mow our lawns - and we blame them for all the crime?

then again, it's the american way - blame them for the crime, the terror -

when the terrorist acts were committed by folks LEGALLY in this country OR some whacked out american with his head screwed on wrong.

Just where do YOU live?

Theresa · #**413** 06-13-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Are you guys really that clueless?

The Disciples delclared "we ought to obey God, rather than man". They only meant in matters of evangelism and morality. They didn't mean it was okay to break every law in the book because they felt like it. "Render unto Caeser what is Caeser's, and unto God what is God's".

*sheesh* The tunnel vision and reverse racism is thick on this thread.

not one of us has said the "illegal" part of their entry into this country was OK - it's wrong, they should fix it

but dont go blaming them now that they are here for all the ills in the world.

Sure, close the borders but dont be so niave to say illegals are causing all the problems....

Digging4Truth · #**414** 06-13-2007, 01:49 PM

In Los Angeles 95% of outstanding homicide warrants are for illegal aliens and up to 2/3 of all fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

Digging4Truth · #**415** 06-13-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Theresa

not one of us has said the "illegal" part of their entry into this country was OK - it's wrong, they should fix it

In what way should they "fix it"?

Theresa · #**416** 06-13-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

In Los Angeles 95% of outstanding homicide warrants are for illegal aliens and up to 2/3 of all fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

oh shut up DT LOL

I dont live in LA...so there

You can probably say the same thing about mcallen texas, isnt that a border town?

I still dont belive that as a NATION, most crime is committed by illegals

Digging4Truth · #**417** 06-13-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Theresa

I still dont belive that as a NATION, most crime is committed by illegals

Well that would tend to not be the case as they are a minority.

The stats would depend on the number of illegals living in the area.

Some areas will have none.
Some will have a few.
Some will nearly be a majority.

Theresa · #**418** 06-13-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

In what way should they "fix it"?

how am I supposed to know that? some mass deportation isnt the answer and I dont think you'll ever make them all legal

but they arent all criminals - outside the whole coming into the country part LOL - yes, their entry was a crime, so yes, they are a criminal for that - but to say ALL illegal immigrants are theives, murderers etc...is stupid

Digging4Truth · #**419** 06-13-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Theresa

how am I supposed to know that? some mass deportation isnt the answer and I dont think you'll ever make them all legal

but they arent all criminals - outside the whole coming into the country part LOL - yes, their entry was a crime, so yes, they are a criminal for that - but to say ALL illegal immigrants are theives, murderers etc...is stupid

But...All illegals are.... illegal.

So you support the amnesty that we have been handing out to millions every few years?