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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen
I've been to prison you ever seen someone make hooch(wine)? It takes some time to ferment, not long like 2 to 3 days, but what Jesus made was fresh off the press. New wine could be what you didn't let age, which would be 2 or 3 days. But I was referring to the wine was new, not calling it new wine which we can tell in the scripture is referring to Strong Drink.
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So, Jesus made new wine which was not alcoholic, but the mockers thought the apostles were drunk on new wine which was 2 or 3 days old? So then wine is alcoholic or not based on what you want it to be, instead of on what it is? Jesus didn't make "new wine fresh off the press". There was no press. There was simply Holy Ghost power. It was wine, and it was considered by the host of the wedding as "the best".
The Scriptures say that wine was given by God to man along with bread and oil. Nobody drank "non alcoholic wine" in the bible, unless you count vinegar. The tetotaler is certainly within their rights to abstain from all wine. But to declare that someone else is somehow not right with God just because they drank wine is wholly unscriptural.
Jesus was accused of being a winebibber. This would have been an impossible and ridiculous accusation that would have held no water with anyone if Jesus and His disciples were dedicated to zero tolerance and total abstinence, like John the Baptist was. He was accused of being a winebibber by Pharisees, who certainly had no prohibition against drinking wine in moderation. Therefore, it is inescapable that Jesus and His disciples did in fact drink wine in moderation, as everyone else in Palestine did except for Nazarites.
I am not trying to encourage anyone to drink wine. But I am trying to discourage people from making claims that simply cannot be supported by Scripture and which contradict Scripture. THAT is more dangerous than drinking a glass of Cabernet with your dinner. Far more dangerous.
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