I have Left the UPC Church

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

Okay, maybe he should have said if Michlow's heart is right and she is really desiring truth, after she sifts she will find truth. I figured that is what he meant.

Thank you for the concession.

You are getting much closer to being right now.

[Digging4Truth]

Here is how the Bible listed the ministries.

Apostles
Prophets
Evanglists
Pastors
Teachers

Here is how todays church world sees the ministries.

Apostles
Prophets
Evanglists
Pastors
Teachers

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Ultimately it will be up to all of us to submit to the Word, the Spirit and ministry in sifting ... I don't see an inconsistency in Ron's statement ... I think that both Mich and Ron acknowledge the role of these things in their spiritual journey ... I reminder might be warranted ... but we are not dealing w/ immature believers ...

Michelle described herself as a spiritual teenager.

Teenagers definitely need the guidance of authority figures in their lives.

Do you disagree?

I have stayed out of this thread, partially because Michelle is someone I have been burdened for and have prayed for, and I don't want to get in conflict with her.

But I fear she is making some unwise decisions, and I hate to see wrong concepts trotted out that reinforce the faulty thinking.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Thank you for the concession.

You are getting much closer to being right now.

LOL! And you??

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Here is how the Bible listed the ministries.

Apostles
Prophets
Evanglists
Pastors
Teachers

Here is how todays church world sees the ministries.

Apostles
Prophets
Evanglists
Pastors
Teachers

I have long been a contender for the proper function of the five-fold ministry in the Body of Christ.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Michelle described herself as a spiritual teenager.

Teenagers definitely need the guidance of authority figures in their lives.

Do you disagree?

I have stayed out of this thread, partially because Michelle is someone I have been burdened for and have prayed for, and I don't want to get in conflict with her.

But I fear she is making some unwise decisions, and I hate to see wrong concepts trotted out that reinforce the faulty thinking.

Sometimes what seems unwise is actually a step of faith. I also have concerns for her, but I know also that if her heart is right that God will be with her.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Michelle described herself as a spiritual teenager.

Teenagers definitely need the guidance of authority figures in their lives.

Do you disagree?

I have stayed out of this thread, partially because Michelle is someone I have been burdened for and have prayed for, and I don't want to get in conflict with her.

But I fear she is making some unwise decisions, and I hate to see wrong concepts trotted out that reinforce the faulty thinking.

I would say ... that it's worrisome if she has not found a place to congregate ... however she has also admitted to being Spirit-filled and studying God's Word like never before .... we cannot discount the power of the Holy Ghost in her life ... simply because she's not UPC anymore

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I have long been a contender for the proper function of the five-fold ministry in the Body of Christ.

What does a person do in that contention?

Do you get Apostles & Prophets to come and minister in your church on any regular basis?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I would say ... that it's worrisome if she has not found a place to congregate ... however she has also admitted to being Spirit-filled and studying God's Word like never before .... we cannot discount the power of the Holy Ghost in her life ... simply because she's not UPC anymore

Daniel, her not being UPC anymore is the absolute least of my concerns.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Coop, the Scripture teaches that the ministry is God's Gift to the Church.

If you have a problem with that terminology, you will have to take it up with God.

The idea did not originate with me.

Would you like me to post the verses?

I think you know them, but I will if you like.

Every good and perfect gift comes down from the Father above.

Are you a perfect gift?

Men are not perfect they will never be and should never be viewed and trusted as such Perfect gifts.